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The trialy bike or the enduro???

Very true ^^^

They already swap engines, I've heard that the engine in the Beta 80 is the same as the engine in the KTM 65 MX bike... Yes but will KTM use the Beta developed motor in a trial bike of there own?

Ok we all know that Beta and KTM are partners in the engine department with the Beta enduro machine using KTM power. So I was wondering if the engine deal works both ways? Now that Beta have developed their own 4stroke trials engine will KTM be looking to borrow it for a trial bike of their own? After all there was rumours in the recent past that KTM were going to build a trial bike (or did I dream that?)! Does anyone know any more about the KTM trials rumour?

Yup I will be going down on the saturday! Anyone know if Fantic will be there?

Interesting ^^^^ where did you find that? I wonder if they will be at Stoneleigh later this month?

Yeah been out of trials for a bit! Hordcore mountainbiker me

Has anybody heard any new news on the new bikes from Fantic? Is the 50/80 going into production? Is there anymore word/pictures on the larger cc 4strokes? Is there a website up for Fantic Motor?? They never seem to be very good at getting public interest do they!

If its the one in the photo its a 1996 model!

The 96 model did'nt have an ally frame, it was steel like the 95 version. The 97 had the ally frame!

I like it! Cant wait to see what the big engined version looks like

Great to see Fantic on a comeback but do they "need" to make a 4stroke? 2strokes would be cheaper to produce and sell and I dunno if its the same the world over but 4strokes just dont seem to be that popular around my neck o'the woods?? Get the old forward kicking oil burner engine resurrected and my name would be on one for sure!!

atachally ist a 250 and the pro is a 300 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> whachew talkin about fool?

I wonder if they are allowed to use the old forward kick 2stroke engine for the trials bikes? I mean I know they bought the name and everything but did they buy the rights to use original designs? I reckon if they did they could make that engine easily as competative as todays bikes from GG, Beta etc. Plus it would make sense financialy as the design already exists! Hmmm unless they are determined to make a thumper???

They should have put all their R&D money into the trialy/enduro bikes instead of attempting MotoGP last year

I read somewhere that they are making a larger capacity 4stroke for production in 2008! Not sure about the Raga rumour tho???

Thats the big seat version! It also comes without the sofa attached! Lovely looking bike tho

lovely looking bike look's like a seller to me, good to see. how long has that been on the market for any idea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You cant buy em yet, I think its just a prototype?

Trialy bike.....gorgeous!

Enduro bike....

Yeah that is their Enduro bike, its only 50/80cc tho They are making a new trialy bike tho also 50cc with a bigger 4stroke version by 2008!

The suzukis always look good IMO and that one is no exception! The Kawasaki looks awesome too! Shame they arent at the front more often!

Wow thanks for the tips guys! I will try and take it all on board and give the different settings a blast! Mucho appreciated

Cheers mate, yeah it all helps thanks as Im as novice as you can be at this game!! I will hopefully get out at the weekend and do some experimenting with different settings! Ha ha lets see what I come up with

Thanks Dabs Alot you have some good pics in there! Are the f numbers (i.e. f1, f2, f3 etc) to do with how much light is available like if its a dull or bright day? Also how quick do you have your shutter speed?