November 18, 201312 yr Is there any place in the Western US where vintage trials are laid out as they were 40 years ago so the motorcycle is moving pretty much all of the time? More a momentum thing than a point and shoot type exercise. Out of more general interest, are trials done that way anywhere in the world today? Edited November 19, 201312 yr by yellow_cad
November 19, 201312 yr Check out www.mid-atlantictrials.com/. An eastern Maryland and Pennsylvania trials series for vintage and modern bikes that operates under the no-stop rules of the 70's.
November 19, 201312 yr We just finished our second season. We had 17 events in four states. A great format, hope we keep it going for years!http://mtwestvintagetrials.org/?doing_wp_cron=1384825107.4297380447387695312500
November 19, 201312 yr Looks great. Everybody having fun on their bikes with none of the "attitude" that has come to taint the "modern" events. Long may you continue
November 19, 201312 yr Is there any place in the Western US where vintage trials are laid out as they were 40 years ago so the motorcycle is moving pretty much all of the time? More a momentum thing than a point and shoot type exercise. Out of more general interest, are trials done that way anywhere in the world today? Most classic trials in Europe are done that way, except maybe in the Expert class. Video's of our event last year: Edited November 19, 201312 yr by guys
November 19, 201312 yr Your local trials club (PITS) uses "no stop" rules for Saturday events. AHRMA events are also run that way. Edited November 19, 201312 yr by mcman56
November 20, 201312 yr Check out the AHRMA Northwest site. It has the 2013 schedule still posted. Totally no-stop lines for pre-unit bikes and up to 1979 models. Beginner to expert lines. http://66.84.0.143/~ahrmanwc/
November 20, 201312 yr Most classic trials in Europe are done that way, except maybe in the Expert class. Video's of our event last year: See what you mean about the "Expert " class more 5's than you could shake a stick at. Simple shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. I mean it's no that it was a hard section or anything.
November 21, 201312 yr well if the c15 rider at 7.54 were to ride at a Yarkshire or red rose trial he d be fived all day long if he 'rode' like that..
November 21, 201312 yr well if the c15 rider at 7.54 were to ride at a Yarkshire or red rose trial he d be fived all day long if he 'rode' like that.. and with us too if I was observing
November 22, 201312 yr well if the c15 rider at 7.54 were to ride at a Yarkshire or red rose trial he d be fived all day long if he 'rode' like that.. and with us too if I was observing From guys video my opinion would be :- Very harsh (strict scoring) both c15's would have only been given a single dab from me, in fact not one of the riders (failing taking the wrong course) would have received a 5 from me! As a pre65 /twin shocker trial goes there should be sections like that that allow mostly cleans to encourage the entry, then also a few sections that you know will defeat all but the best... Are we driving away entries to trials by making riders despondent by receiving too many fives ? Are we taking NO STOP too literally ? Surely a 5 should be given when all further forwards motion is not possible, you have either stalled or fallen off OR you move backwards ! If you have the skill to hop / balance momentarily on one of our heavy old lumps of machinery then why should you be penalised. To encourage new blood and halt the decline in numbers competeing surely this must be the way to go! That's my view from riding trials in the early 1970's to today's veteran trials.......
November 22, 201312 yr True the sections should be laid out so that there is no advantage to hop and bop but stopping with your foot down while you compose yourself for the next hazard is a five simple as that. To make it worse the section was only an easy one anyway so why the prating about? Problem is once you allow this then you have to make the sections even harder and the whole cycle starts again. Classic trials should be run to non stop rules simple if people don't or don't want to ride non stop then get back on their modern bike and ride stop allowed trials. Classic trials are popular BECAUSE they are flowing and attainable to mere mortals lets keep it that way. IMHO of course
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