herman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I'd post a pic if I had one, but where could a guy get a hold of a couple of those fancy kickstarters that pivot at the base? My 191 is progressing and since I've spent a fortune so far, a little more won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjsy Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Hullo Herman , I am not sure if anyone makes them specifically, but a person with good metalworking skills should be able to adapt something from another make. The left side placement of the starter pedal does limit one somewhat, but I remember my Suzuki Super Six I had way back was like that, a good place to start ? Some Italian bikes from the same era were also left side starters. I expect the splines from a Bultaco lever would need to be used. A matter of lining up the 2 levers then seeing what the options are. A few years back I made up one for an Ariel 500 single. We used a much later Suzuki lever and swivel with the Ariel splined piece, a solid pin in the middle then Mig welded to finish. Works well and is still in use today. So I say it is do-able with the right parts plus some help of a capable person to stitch it all together properly. Hope this helps, John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Do you want a modern-looking one or a 1970s looking one? 1970s OSSA kickstart is a direct replacement and swivels at the bottom. Just beware there are two spline sizes on OSSAs and only one is the same as the Bultaco spline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htrdoug Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 By the looks of it it appears you will be punching scores next weekend rather than riding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 I doubt the 191 will be done my winter as I'm taking my time with it. I will be riding the 199 or the Gas Gas both days. I will, however, bring my Fantic 240 buddy as well as a newbie that will ride my TL125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hewson Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hewson Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 My old 199B with a alloy DOA brand kickstart , made in Italy i think , not many come up for sale now ...Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 look on vazquez they are fitting early gas gas ones now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motovita Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, nigel dabster said: look on vazquez they are fitting early gas gas ones now Was there a left side kick Gas Gas? If so I can't imagine that'd be easy to find. Edited September 7, 2018 by motovita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 no different attachment (the splines are obviously not the same), guess the bottom is custom made which is common practice on pre 65's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjw123 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Am reliably informed that a Beta EVO item can be modified to fit. Been told Audit CNC in NE England can do it. Plan to do it eventually on my 199B as standard item weighs a ton. They advertise in Classic DB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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