Looking for some new bikes opinion thoughts. Intermediate rider looking for a new bike. Past have only been on GG but open to other brands. Live in NC. Prefer a 250 or tamed 300. 

2022 Scorpa 300 - very light use, flywheel weights. Is this the same bike essentially as the Sherco below? “Cheapest” option. 

2022 Scherco ST 250 Factory - found a dealer with a leftover bike heavily discounted. $1k over the used Scorpa above. 

2023 Beta Evo 250 Factory - not a fan of left kick start, never ridden one. Can get this for about $500 over the Sherco. 

2023 GG TXT 250 GP - can get this for about $500 more than the Beta above. Heard since KTM take over some possible quality / reliability issues to be cautious of? China parts, fragile. 

2023 TRS 250 One R ES - I can get one of these for about what the GG would be above. Not their top of line model though. Would you have a TRS One R over a GG GP? Worth it go get the RR for a lower level rider?

Lots of questions I know, looking for opinions given such limited info on reviews longer term. 

Thanks! 

8 minutes ago, Kristop9 said:

Heard since KTM take over some possible quality / reliability issues to be cautious of? China parts, fragile.

This here is complete nonsense, stop listening/spreading such rubbish

Go with which one you like the colour of, what most people seem to do these day

Edited August 19, 20233 yr by faussy

27 minutes ago, faussy said:

This here is complete nonsense, stop listening/spreading such rubbish

Go with which one you like the colour of, what most people seem to do these day

Haha, thanks! I do own a KTM motocross bike which has been flawless so I do take all of this with a grain of salt. 

Some people just love to bash the opposite brand. I havent noticed a drop in GG quality since the takeover. A couple years back some 125s had a bad batch of cdi units, thats about it.

IMO it would be between the GG and TRS, probably the GG since its a brand new bike for 2023 and people seem to like it. Im not a fan of betas, but in the uk theres a reason theyre the most popular bike amongst clubmen. They turn tight (but are twitchy) have really smooth power (but a little lacking). Scorpa and sherco got totally updated with new engine and chasis for 2023. The 2022 versions arent bad bikes and if you want to save a bit, for an intermediate rider they are more than fine.

Theres very little to choose between them all. Picking which bike you think looks the best really is a legitamate reason, especially if you are going new/newish

Edited August 19, 20233 yr by faussy

All of them are constant maintenance, what brand would provide you the best dealer/service representation?  <- that's the one to roll with.

... my TRS dealer is only 20 feet away at the moment and he has a truckload of spare parts 😎

Edited August 19, 20233 yr by lemur

Constant maintanence? Theyre all brand new! Am i doing trials wrong if ive only had to go to the dealer a couple of times in 20 years?

4 minutes ago, faussy said:

Constant maintanence? Theyre all brand new! Am i doing trials wrong if ive only had to go to the dealer a couple of times in 20 years?

Yep constant, you must not be riding anywhere near the hours I do now, I'm retired and all I do now is ride motorcycles.  Currently a 2017 Montesa and a 2020 TRS and planning to trade my TRS in for a new one this year or next spring.  

Maintanence on a trials bike should not involve a dealer. If it requires a dealer, thats not maintanence

3 hours ago, faussy said:

Maintanence on a trials bike should not involve a dealer. If it requires a dealer, thats not maintanence

What that man said! On the other hand a good dealer is an important asset. It's not necessary for them to be close, as long as you get sensible advice over the phone and a good mail order service for any parts you require.

12 hours ago, faussy said:

Maintanence on a trials bike should not involve a dealer. If it requires a dealer, thats not maintanence

Gotta get my parts from somewhere.  

8 hours ago, lemur said:

Gotta get my parts from somewhere.  

Fair enough, i thought you meant you needed a dealer handy because you were always taking it to him to get it fixed.

1 hour ago, faussy said:

Fair enough, i thought you meant you needed a dealer handy because you were always taking it to him to get it fixed.

Oh heck no!  

and if I did break something at yesterdays trial, I would have had it fixed ready for todays trial 😎 D&J stock the parts you are likely to need.

I'm surprise that no one ask: Have you tried any of them? Is there one that you feel better ridding?

Guy

20 hours ago, guy53 said:

I'm surprise that no one ask: Have you tried any of them? Is there one that you feel better ridding?

Guy

Is the correct answer.

3 hours ago, tshock250 said:

Is the correct answer.

Or, get your father to build the ultimate bike 👍