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2021 TXT 280 , fly wheel weight to soften power delivery ?
wheelieman14 replied to cadarnvice's topic in Gas Gas
I had a 2012 GG TXT 280 that came with 11/39 final gearing. changing it to 10/39 helped me with the addition of a flywheel weight. -
@splashcroft you actually need to use flywheel puller to see if there is removable weight added that can be removed... The newer generation Evo 250/300 models, since around 2013-15) have "inverted Flywheel/Stator" meaning the stator is attached to the flywheel cover (instead of internally). If flywheel is removed and you can view the backside (hidden in pic), that's where any possible screws would be located. That spark plug indicating a very rich (black) condition. Try raising the needle clip from 4th position down (stock, with 125 MJ) to 3rd clip position from the top (dropping needle into needle jet housing) to lean out low to midrange jetting. Might even be able to run 122 MJ and try increasing 48 Pilot (slow) jet to 50 or 52 to see if you can get maximum idle and crispness, once warmed up with air screw between 1.5 and 2.25 turns out? Last question... what Pre-mix oil and ratio are you running? I wouldn't go with any more oil than 80:1 ratio and prefer Motul 710 synthetic (over Motul 800, which has too high flashpoint), typically letting "spooge" drip out of exhaust silencer...
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Where are you located? From my limited knowledge outside of USA-spec models; I believe in UK, that Beta UK prefers to have their 250/300cc Evo Models built with "heavier weighted flywheel" as standard build. With proper flywheel puller tool; it "might be possible" to remove flywheel to check if there is a weight "added onto the Standard flywheel (used in other countries). My experience is that in USA, the Beta Super Smooth heavier flywheel is built as a solid piece and not just an added on weight to increase Mass.
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White Domino throttle tube is definitely "Fast action" throttle with less movement required than black tube throttle ~120 degrees total turn. What are you using for final gearing? My '22 Evo Factory 250 came stock with 10/42 gearing and had no problems revving right up. I switched to 9/43 gearing and prefer to use 2nd gear, instead of 1st; when riding sections - which allows closer steps to 3rd or 4th gear. Typically if bike is geared with taller gearing (i.e 11 or 12 tooth front sprocket) then 1st gear is still pretty usable, but then there is pretty big gap; shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. A 250 is generally a little more mellow than a 300, but something doesn't seem right, if "slow-revving" is interpreted as "sluggish".
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you can get away with 7psi F & 5 psi R for general Trials riding. For competition, I drop down to about 5.25 psi Front & 3.5 to 4.25 psi Rear. This past Sunday was the first time this year I needed to go below 4 psi to get traction in sloppy muddy conditions. This is for Michelin X-Lite or Dunlop D803GP Trials tires.
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Although the Factory Top Triple clamp has 3 location positions for the handlebar clamps, I noticed that those clamps (as well as V-Mar clamps) are "offset" from center, so there are also more options; such as turning around the clamps and using the forward-most location to get a smaller change. I'm still using the center mounting option; though I did easily go over the bars last Saturday at a competition when descending off a rock into another rock and stuffing front wheel!
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Consider a 250cc model? Most of the tricks you mentioned seem to work well for 300cc bikes to tame them down. From my experience, the 250cc Beta Evo Factory is already pretty low compression.
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I've been riding Beta Evo 200 & 300cc models. Currently have '21 Evo 200 Factory and have '22 Evo 250 Factory on order. As much as I like the 200; I'm ready to try out the 250. Experience so far, tells me that the 200 is plenty of machine, but requires a bit more technique; whereas the 300 seems to have instant power to get up the bigger obstacles and overkill for my Intermediate lines. Will see how the 250 works out.
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What are you running for final gearing Dan? Having tried 9/43 gearing with good results on my Evo 300, I'm now running 10/48 and finding 2nd gear very adequate for plonking around in sections with my 20 Evo 300 Factory. Clutch is also working very well.
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Beta offers clutch spring retaining washers that are flat, without any recess on spring pre-load on Evo 200, but also builds the Evo 250/300 models with retaining washers that are 1.5mm offset on one side and flat (no offset) on the other. Dan designed a 3mm offset washer; which used flat head allen screw to replace the OEM Evo clutch parts and can significantly reduce the amount of pressure needed to operate the clutch at the clutch lever. IMO, this is a much better solution than removing 2 of 6 clutch springs (which will most likely cause the clutch to slip in higher gears).
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I think I got the last set the dealer had & you certainly helped me out with a handful of flat-head allen screws. Since the Evo 300 (and possibly Evo 250) already come with the red anodized 1.5mm offset clutch spring retaining washers; I've had good success using (3) 1.5mm offset washers; along with (3) 3mm offset washers you designed. Clutch pull is relatively easy and no noticeable slipping in higher gears.
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1997 to 2001 Model Trials bike is going to depend on how hard a life it's had so far... Tires, chain, sprockets, brake pads, rotors, levers, grips and footpegs are typical wear parts and still available, since they share fitment with many newer model bikes. Though a 1999 model can be 23 years old, many of the parts you mentioned rarely even need replacing. Used bike prices are pretty high lately, so be cautious when buying something so old.
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finally pulling the trigger 200, 250, 280?
wheelieman14 replied to ses601's topic in Introduce Yourself
I started off on GasGas TXT 280 and right off the bat it needed smaller front sprocket and flywheel weight. Evo 200 is ideal starter bike, though even the 11/42 stock gearing seemed a bit tall for me, since I'm carrying 25-30 pounds more than you, so I like 10/42 or 10/43 gearing. My Evo 300 certainly has plenty of grunt, and I prefer 9/43 gearing (over stock 10/42) but adding a heavier SS Flywheel certainly tames the bike down. I prefer 2nd gear or even 3rd gear for bigger hills when riding sections on the 300. -
Beginning in 2019 the Beta Evo bikes no longer have a switch to turn off the headlight. Personally, I prefer the light on all the time; to make sure there is power available for radiator fan to turn on, as needed. If you want to turn light off, just unplug connector to it.