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What do you normally ride (bike and level)?

They mentioned it in their list of changes, 'different geometry', and ive heard people say that they went steeper more beta like, which was the only way they could have went. Ive only had a short 5 minute ride on one of the new ones. I wasnt in a hurry to jump off it, and if someone hadnt of told me about the steering i probably wouldnt have noticed.

Have the changed the geometry on the new GG’s then? I didn’t realise that.. I guess that will be a different beast again then….

Agreed, having an ohlins was the thing in trials in the 00s. I was shocked when the gg came with an ohlins that year, talk about cost cutting!

Same here. They have steep steering, which is why some clubmen love them, they turn tight. If youre good enough to hop, then this isnt a deal breaker, as most of your turns arent made at full lock. The new GG has steeper steering than the pre 23 model. Still not as twitchy as a beta though. Im lucky enough to be rather tall so starting a gg isnt a big deal but i fully acknowledge they certainly arent the easiest

I see, that makes perfect sense… I’m not a particularly intrepid rider, Sportsman/Middle route sometimes depending on the day… so won’t be doing much hopping…. Things I liked about the Beta 200. It started easy, power was mellow, erm ….It started easy… (did I just say that?). I didn’t like how it would tuck under so easily… the Gas Gas … it felt more stable to me, the build quality was good as far as I could see, the fuel tank lifted out… I didn’t like starting it after it had been upside down on a bank… enter the TRS with Estart (Didn’t like the noisy clutch and the wires hanging out everywhere. Regardless what people say, I didn’t think it was that well finished…jerky rattling clutch…) So assuming there’s nothing special about the Evo 250 I may just get another Gasser..

Brand loyalty is a huge factor I’d say, I ride Trails on my KTM but could easily do the same on a Yamaha etc, KTM seemed to be readily available with good spares backup (and they do break!) I don’t ride trials but am on the hunt for a bike to play on and improve my trail riding, the Betas seem to be the most available but perhaps that’s because people buy them and then realise they need something else? good thread.

To me, its the same as buying an audi and then having a loyal bmw nut asking you why didnt you buy a bmw. Half the people who say that dont even know why they are riding a beta 250 themselves, they are only riding it because their mate told them theyre the most popular bike. Same goes for montesa, gg owners etc. Personally, i dont like the way they steer, or the engine, but some people love the flat power delivery and some love the way they steer (mostly people who cant hop, because they have the smallest turning circle). If youve had a beta 200 youve experienced close enough to first hand what a beta 250 will be like. I wouldnt worry a thought about what other people say, in fact if youve had a mix of bikes you may find youre more qualified to compare bikes than the people saying. Some people are so brand loyal they wont even have a ride on another make if someone offers them a go, yet are still adamant the bike they ride is the best. Beta are also the cheapest out of the crate (in the UK at least), that may have more effect on numbers than some people want to admit. No harm in trying a test ride on one though

UPDATE: So the weak spark is actually normal for sherco. It bridges 9mm from HT cable to frame. I tried to pour some gas directly into the bore, installed the spark plug and kicked it over and it fired right up. So it is an carburetion issue. Thanks for all the help.

Just wondering… What’s the big deal with Beta Evo 250’s? I’ve gone through a few bikes in recent years and am currently just riding my Twinshock, I don’t have a modern bike right now. Modern bikes, I’ve had a Beta Evo 200, Gas Gas 250, TRS 250RR, all only a couple of years old, all with bits I liked, bits I didn’t. I’m quite happy riding twinshock for the most part but might buy another modern for using when appropriate. One thing, it was not uncommon to be asked ‘why didn’t you buy a Beta?’, as if it’s the obvious choice. When I had my 200 I found the clutch needed messing around with constantly to stop it sticking and I preferred the handling on the Gas Gas. So I’m pondering on getting something a few years old now and wondering ‘should I try an Evo 250?’ I don’t know anyone who can lend me one for a decent try out but thought I’d reach out to the community for input before buying something and possibly regretting it as selling bikes in is a pain in the… What have I been missing out on?

RastoM, I did resolve it by having the pick up timing sensors replaced on the stator. It now runs fine with no issues at all. Also changed the spark plug cap, so I'm hoping it wasn't just that. It may be worth looking at that first, or that you haven't dislodged some wiring when you removed and replaced the tank. It is pretty congested for wiring under the tank, specially if you have the full lighting loom still installed.

Hi Geoffrey, do you know what was the issue? And if so how did you resolve it. I am having a similar issue but it did run perfectly, switched it off, removed the tank, put it back together and it has no spark. Thanks for replying in advance

Hi, sorry for not responding, was away. We bought a pair but different makes so that is no help. I have read the sherco lost spark thread but haven't seen the conclusion. I have tried several spark plugs and it is not that. Some local electrician repair man have told me that if it's giving spark (witch it does but it is weak) it is not the CDI/Coil problem and I should check the alternator voltage. Could you send me the values or the service manual, I have no leads. Thanks for all the info.

Hahaha think things went off topic .. anyway thanks 👍

Yep I know all that thanks .. It's just a case of good labelling.. vegan walking boots are all over the place and easy to source .. thanks

I am a Reiger importer and service agent in Australia and you are correct that it does need a special tool / fitting to charge the shock (2 pieces actually). You can email me at The Hell team if you want some more information. TRS have only used R16V and Reiger shocks, they have not used Ohlins on any of their models. They use a number of different Reiger models. The ones on the ONE R have adjustable compression and rebound, and use a clevis connection at the lower end. The RR models have hi and low speed compression adjustment, and rebound adjustment, and a clevis connection at the lower end. And the GOLD series use the bigger bodied B40 shock with hi and low speed compression adjustment, rebound adjustment and Hydrastop adjustment, and a spherical bearing connection at the lower end. The Ohlins on the GG has spherical bearing connections both ends, and is a slightly different free length. TRS 265mm, GG 279mm, so not compatible. (at least not without some work and parts replacement). And the Ohlins is no were near as good as the Reiger (even the base model) IMHO.

So I have a 2021 300 OneRE with a Reiger shock. Thing actually works pretty decent. The other night I decided to service it and seeing I owned a suspension business for 20 years I saw no problem in just digging into it. Wrong. It needs a specialized fitting to charge the nitrogen which seems to be impossible to obtain. Does anyone have access to this and any other tools needed? Or.....does anyone know what other shocks fit on it without any issue? I heard Ohlins once came on them but I haven't been able to confirm that. I can get a brand new Ohlins off of the 2020 Gas Gas for a pretty cheap price and it seems as though so many of the bikes share the same dimensions. But this just speculation. Has anyone put any other shock on a TRS?

Yesterday I tried my new TRS One RR and I liked it a lot. If anything wrong should be found the gearbox is a bit hard. Perhaps it's because it's brand new and needs some break in time.

Phbl is probably the easiest. And it is actually better in some ways than the PWK. Otherwise you will need different connections. Air box to carb and maybe intake. Hopefully someone that has done it will chime in. We are talkining a 3 decades old design.

Grew up around electricity and electronics, it's a passion. But in this case this is why I always like to buy my trials bikes in pairs, makes troubleshooting a no brainer 😆

It's a rare individual who reports back. Honestly, if more users did so, I'd be more willing to offer suggestions. I admire your willingness to help, lemur.

Lots of info there but that fella never returned to say what the problem was.

its not the gear on kickstarter...its the gear it turns