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Alexz was first through section 15 and he fived the end fairly striaght foward climb out of the stream (although it's fair to say he wasn't the only one by any means) but he went back and stood looking at it for a good five mins in complete disbelief. It certainly didn't look like a stopper.
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The last one from the Top of Bedlam. Section 26 I think. Anyone towards the back had a tough time in the mud.
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Here's another.
This is Becky Cook, she cleaned my section which was a steep muddy slot accross a camber following a nasty stream crossing. There were plenty of fives at this one and she was spot on.
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Here's another, I think this one is Steve Saunders and the other two are Alexz Wigg & Dan Thorpe. Sorry to be so vague, but you get the idea.
And another brave soul, this picture was taken near the top of a vertical gully full of horrible wet roots.
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Just got back from observing at the Vic Britain, it was very wet and muddy.
I managed to get a couple of pictures of various riders. Sorry they're not very good but it was pouring down, so it will just have to give you a flavour of the event until someone can post some better ones.
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Having ridden in many Miller rounds over the last few years on a trail bike, I find these events to be excellent value for money. I enjoy single lap trials on the road and being on a trail bike the distance is not an issue.
But what is the ideal length for a classic trial on the road if you are riding a classic bike?
Our club has a Miller round every year and it would be easy for us to use groups around a 60 mile course, equally we could do it over say 10 or 15 mile course if we had to.
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There are draw backs to whatever we decide.
Following the FIM would at first seem the obvious course but the FIM are a law unto themselves and whilst they would consider the ACU's wishes (in theory) they will do just what they think is best for them. If that means changing the rules half way through a season then that is what they would do, so setting a defined period for rule changes in the UK would probably not help.
For those riders who are likely (or hoping) to ride in Europe or WTC events, it is naturally best for them to be following the FIM rules at home and I think everyone would agree with that.
But... What if the FIM suddenly announce they are going full Non stop? Now wouldn't that make an interesting debate?
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As I have said before, all three sets of rules have their merits.
When we changed from the 'anything goes' rules in the late 90's it was an unpopular decision at the time with many and bought about because the FIM changed their rules (actually a year earlier as I remember.)
Initially it was harder to set out sections because we had got used to giving the riders (on the harder routes) little space to turn, line up etc.
We had to consider how much space was needed to ride non stop (well, 1 for stopping if you follow) but it soon became apparent that the better riders could still turn and position themselves in a small space- they just do it without stopping.
So..... the best riders are going to be the best riders irrespective of the rules and we will adapt to what ever rules are set. Lets just have ONE set of rules, if they change they change, it won't be the end of the world, we did it before and trials didn't dissapear.
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It's a c**p way of making a living!
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Now there's a good bike to start out on
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The Sikaflex arrived today, so I'm going down that route. I can't face trying to get grease under that rim tape, and I'm not sure about the puncture repair treatment idea, although that might be the next step.
Thanks for all the advice.
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Was it a big help to wiggy to get his World and European titles?
You bet.
Would we want to force these riders out of the BTC?
Hypothetically look at a calender a clash, BTC and a good euro event, how would the organisers feel if wigg dibs and others did that in preference because the rules had gone backwards.
Last years youth A and B was marked as near to FIM as it could be so its there already.
Nigel, I can't disagree with you on this, so following this line of thought; all modern trials should follow FIM rules.
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In answer to those questions, no, no and no.
However, my comment is directed at the ridiculous situation we find ourselves in by having three sets of rules all in operation at the same time.
If you read my post, I certainly haven't critisised any of the three diferent rules, they all DO have their own merits.
I personaly feel that full Non stop is the solution, but of-course many/most people would disagree.
As John states in his excellent reply, the ACU will be consulting all those concerned and will make a decision on the BC in due course. For the time being the ACU can't do fairer than that.
Question answered.
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John, Thank you once again for such a comprehensive and honest reply to what is obviously a difficult subject.
Now we have the facts... as they stand.
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Exactly. What a pathetic situation we find ourselves in.... three different sets of rules.
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I think ALL trials should be run under FIM rules....... and the FIM should go FULL NON STOP! That would stop the argument.
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What happens the next time you change a tyre or a spoke, can you get the old sealant off ok? Do you have to put another load in with a new tyre?
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It's a good bit of fun but I can't co-ordinate my fingers to make it do what I want.
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It's simply a question of ratios, the time taken is the same.
If you shorten your final drive chain by a link, does the wheel start to move slightly sooner than before?
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I've been waiting for the moment to use this new smilie. This is not me.....
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Thanks for that suggestion. What is the theory behind that idea? Does that work better than sealer?
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Thanks for that. Here's the link if anyone is havig trouble finding it.
Click here.
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That's a good one to check!
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