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The lad had a 200 and it never needed more power in the club trials we do. And when it came to wet muddy trials, it was brilliant! (And the 2004 model had better electrics than its 250 brother!)

Not talking about this seller. But as you mentioned shill bidding. Ebay are against shill bidders.... Although successful shillers earn Ebay lots of money becasue they bump the final price (of their own item) up! So isn't it unfortunate that the recent policy of protecting bidders identities makes it harder to see shill bids?

Now, I'm new to this, but my initial reaction to this statement is simply that if that's the case, trials bikes shouldn't be on the road. I'm surprised that people are trying to justify it. It's not about whether the police are reasonable, friendly or anti-bike. If you ride a bike on the road, and it isn't road legal, then aren't you in the same category as kids tearing around on mini motos? I know nothing about "road trials" but I guess they have their origins in the days when "trias bikes" as such didn't exist and people trialled whatever they rode. If that's the case then maybe a modern trials bike has developed too far to be appropriate for roads trials. Can't really argue with that, but what can we do?

Wise words. It is worth getting in your van and travelling to ride in decent trials. You will never want to go back to the local ones. I know people round my way put a lot of time and effort into organising their trials, but the land is to limiting. They must be putting the time into efforts in other centres cos it aint the trials I ride in. Do you mean there's room for improvement?

Top Farm at Buckland near Broadway have a trials practice area and refreshments available most weekends, they are not too far from you and we run a club trial there in Jun which has four routes, so there should one suitable for you. I'll pm you off line to give you the tel number. Pete Stratford-Upon-Avon Club

I have to say it looks like a really good one from the pictures. Let us know how you get on with it.

Good grief! That takes some believing, it would have been brilliant to see her at the end.

That's the reason why I collect or encourage our membership to send their forms to me and I stamp and sign them all in one go. I also give them a quick check over to make sure they're filled in ok. That said, one was still returned because I'd missed that the rider hadn't signed it. Only an observation but... at this time of year the most common telephone conversation that I have concerns the medical part of the form. For trials registration there is a lot of unused form to print off which is surplus, many riders have trouble working out what to and what not to fill in.

Spot on Eiger, I couldn't agree more. I didn't open this thread expecting to get into such a heated debate over the why's and wherefores or riding on the road, I only really wanted to let other riders know what was going on so that they could maybe prevent any future occurances. I think we all agree that bikes must be taxed, Insured and MOT'd and to a reasonable mechanical standard. My bike is fairly close, the tax disc is clearly displayed facing the front, the rear number plate has letters close to the legal size and is near vertical, however I don't have a speedo or horn fitted. Where this discussion became a little... shall I say 'contentious', was when it was suggested that it should be the clubs or the ACU's responsibility to check that machiunes are fully road legal before starting a trial. It's obvious that getting a trials bike legal for the road is going to be a compromise, or we just won't be able to do it. Good on the Police for doing what they did on Sunday, if I'd been pulled for no horn I would have paid the fine and fitted one for future road trials. As far as I heard, no-one was fined for minor things like speedo's, or low tyre pressures, the Police acted very reasonably. It's not a case of 'slopping shoulders' to state that it is the riders responsibility, it can't be any other way for the reasons already stated in this thread.

Only a thought,..... if printing, staffing, holiday problems are an issue, could we not simply have licences which run from 1st Feb? This would make no difference to road racers etc but would give the ACU breathing space after christmas to deal with trials riders. As far as the process is concerned, I must say the licence/registration system has worked very well this year in my experience. As a club secretary, I had a batch of forms to stamp and sign. I waited as long as I dared before sending them in so that I could send as many as possible with just one cheque attached. Three days after posting, I recieved an email (actually on Christmas friday!) to say the forms had been processed and the card arrived between christmas and new year. My only small gripe (and I'm sorry there has to be one at all) is that I didn't get a renewal form sent to me in the post. I have spoken to two other people who didn't get theirs either. It's no problem to me, I just printed some from the web site, but not everyone is on the net. But overall it was spot on this year, well done to the ACU for sorting that out.

I'm five miles along the road and offered already....but you turned your nose up, so bugger ya, you can stuff your own envelopes. Ohh dear. Andy, you seem to be getting some 'stick' tonight

I must say I fully agree that all machines should be taxed and insured, no exceptions, if you get caught without either (or an MOT on older machines) you should be punished accordingly. However, let me get this correct; you are saying every bike in the Scottish has a fully road legal BS number plate as per legal requirement? Also; if number plates are to be fully road legal (which I have no problem with) surely it follows that all aspects of the machine should also be 100 % spot on in the eyes of the law? Including things like tyres and tyre pressures etc? Do you really think clubs should be checking for all this at every road trial?

Sorry to sound patronising, I take it you've checked the obvious like the adjusting screw coming undone or the lever being bent?

Did it free off after a while? If not, you may have lost some fluid, check for a leaking seal.

John Cowley was making his Rev4 look good in the Centre Championships yesterday.

As far as lawyers coming to the club or the organising body, they would only have a case if either had failed to carry out their duty. It is clear in the NSC what that duty is and there is no mention of clubs checking for ROADworthy condition. If we are going to check that every legal requirement has been met, there is going to be no road trials. How many trials bikes have front and rear brake light switches, reflectors? etc etc. I can't comment on what happens in Scotland, are you saying every bike is checked for a fully legal number plate?

I agree with your first comment. However, it is not the clubs responsibility to ensure the machine/rider are fully road legal, if this was the case there is hardly a trials bike in the UK that would be allowed to start a road trial. A scrutineers job is to make sure machines conform to a specific set of requirements as laid down in the National Sporting Code Appendix 8. Not check the size of the numbers on a registration plate etc. This is totally up to the rider.

A always think of a quote I read by a famous enduro rider. Always clean your bike after every event, this will help you find any faults with the machine.

Rode in the Leamington Victory round of the Midland Centre Group trials championship today starting at Earlswood near Birmingham. Between the third and fourth groups of sections the police were stopping bikes to check for tax, Insurance and number plates. One rider was collared for not diplaying a tax disk on his Beta Rev4 (possibly a first?) A number of riders were caught without tax and ordered back to the start by the shortest route! One or two others heard about the check and made their way to the next sections via a covert diversion! Apparently a local had telephoned the police to complain about motorcycles riding through the village without any number plates! What ever next? If this goes on I'll have to buy a horn

I suppose the paying public would rather not wait whilst a repair was carried out. Can't see why a second bike would be a problem though?

Ignore the bad feeling, next time you get a scoop you can post it in the forums as far as I'm concerned, surely that's what they are for. As far as Bou and the Montesa are concerned I have to eat my hat. I didn't think he was up to it on a 4t. How wrong I was!

Question is; how durable is it? I'd love to find some protectors which stayed on for more than a month.

The lad ran an '04 200 four a couple of years, that's him in the pic to the left. I had no trouble at all from it unlike the '04 250 I had at the time, 200's run a different electrical system which (for me) was far more reliable. You say your bike doesn't have a whole lot of juice when you rev it. This could mean that there is something wrong with the bike, without being there it's hard to guess, but what I would say is my 200 always had enough power for everything it was asked to do. And it always did it with less fuss than my 250... especially if grib was an issue! As a beginner the 200 is ideal. If you can find an event where there is lots of mud it will excell.

Before I realised there were so many trailer companies selling 10inch wheels as a direct replacement for mini wheels, I tried to find a pair in local breakers yards for my trailer. You are right, you can't find them. They've either been bought by people making trailers or by class one (stock mini) auto grass racers. But as I said earlier, why bother looking when you can get brand new wheels with 750kg rated trailer tyres delivered to your door for

If you go for indespension units, you can buy a mounting plate to match which can be welded onto your beam/frame. These are also commonly available and are so cheap it isn't worth making them yourself (unless you've got a metal craft work shop at your disposal.) Here's an example. Click to view Just be careful when you position them to make sure they are square, (at right angle to the direction of travel) horizontal, (with the ground) and that the wheels clear the frame BEFORE you weld them on permanently. It sounds obvious, but I welded mine on after a lot of care and measuring to find that the wheels were too close to the mudguard bracket when I bolted them on. Luckily for me, it was a simple job to move the bracket back 25mm to give the necessary clearance.