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Hi Guy's.
Brian's story of the build of his little bike, with more pictures, is now up on the "Otter"site. enjoy.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Mr Vroom.
Look I have a Jialing JH 125L.
And the white bike is a lot like that.
I have set the foot rests back a bit and made new Mudguard stays etc and increased the engine size to 150cc.
The battery's moved inboard as I wanted to keep the electric start, because I have a job to kick start the bike with a bad leg.
My bike was built for the Trail bike series here, but I have pondered the thought of turning it into an entry level trials machine.
The steering lock is fine ,and the last thing you need around a bike conversion is a "Big Hammer" or an hacksaw.
unless to remove unwanted brackets pillion footrests ETC. then a four inch cutting disc is a better option.
Take a look on my web site for information.
I will post a picture of my bike on there.
Good luck with your conversion and let us know how you get on.
And welcome to TC.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Thanks hrc1,
I just could not remember Merlin. Deryk and I seem to be suffering the same.
I hope you do not mind me using the photo, on my site ?
I will now give you the cortices for the shot.
Interesting bike I must say.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Wallo.
I hope the second mapping in the program puts a limiter for road use,so that you can just flick a switch when you get to a thirty mile an hour speed restriction ?
Some of these new fourth or fifth gear clusters do make the bikes fast on the road I have noticed.
Above is joking ,but has anything changed from 2004 until now?
All that I think has changed is that there is more commercial interest in keeping the band wagon or circus rolling, just for the few
to make the living they have enjoyed over the past years supplying the demand for the so called upgrades.
And anything suggested that might stamp on there toes is treated with disgust, that someone may suggest that there may be, a cheaper way into the sport!
But I now see a light at the end of the tunnel all be it a long way off.
2015 has been an interesting year!!!
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Just an update,in 2015.
The best carb to use on a trials Cub is a VM 22 Mikuni, as used on a pit bike,( and "Mini Otter") and they are cheap compared with the rest of the outlay thrown at the humble Triumph Cub, now-a-days.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Brilliant Brian,
Proves the point better than I could have said.
Don't loop it to much, go steady on the throttle.
Then enjoy, PS don't forget about where neutral is, OK. :-) :-) :-)
Again, Nice one Fella.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Brian,
I hope it was the "Mini Otter" project that gave you the Inspiration for the build?
I hope it rides as good as my little bike (second on the way) .
Good luck with it ,and secondly thanks for building it. and showing others a different way , nice one fella.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Wallo, How many gears you got on your Bantam???
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Above this.
You say that the Miller Bultaco combination changed the complete trials bike scene, ?
Well I suppose you are right, But what you are forgetting is that most British Motorcycle companies just before 1964 were making trials machines, and most had works teams or riders.
One of the biggest blows that was about to stop production of these machines was the demise of the Villiers engine supply.
Things could have been so different , for a while anyway, If Mr Miller had signed for the British offer he had, and not the one from Mr Bulto?
I do blame my self for Sam going to Bultaco, we should have not done such a good job ? on the Bultaco we had converted.
You can't change history though and what happens happens,
But to say that the revolution started then would be wrong ,it was just progression caused by the influx of Japanese Road Bikes that put an end to the British motorcycle industry, because we had our heads in the sand.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's
Hi Wallo,
How is your "Bantam" running??
Has it done any modifications??
Love the picture of it you sent me, may post it on my site!!
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's,
Look There is more behind that lifting front wheel than meets the eye,
You will have to wait for Deryk to explain in one of the later ORR-e magazines. So Sign up now.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's,
Just take a note if you are building a Period trials Bantam,
This bikes sports a flat steel crankcase protector welded to the frame bottom tube.
Doherty steel levers, and Dunlop steel rims. Peco silencer box.
The fact is this guy was one of the best never to be replaced, perhaps BSA did get things right once in a while?
Or was it just Brian Martin? PS, and his Brother.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Deryk.
I think the great speedway and grass track rider that wore the number 22 plate was the iconic Lew Coffin?
He only passed from us this year at the age of 93?!!!
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Deryk
Do you remember the Bob Collier Norton outfit?
The engine was in the prone position and the frame was made of cut up pushbike tubing. (that inspired me to cut me pushbikes up for the same cause.
The other Outfit of his I remember was the Norton Jubilee twin, and a converted Watsonian "Bambi" Glass-fibre sidecar.
Where Bob left off Barry Kefford took over with his designs.
Happy Days.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi WW.
I tonight found a picture of the John Catchpole's side valve Norton outfit being ridden by Arthur Pullman and Lyn. in a Mag article.
He did live in the Isle-of-Man until his passing, one of those characters that would just try something new or improvise just for the sake of it.
Another was Bob Collier, and old mate Barry Kefford.
I just tagged onto this thinking even to this day.
Happy Days.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Probably before your time.
But I remember a very special two stroke engine but for sidecar trials.
It was built by John Catchpole. who I think came from the IOM or ended up living there.
He did come up with some wild and wonderful stuff during his years has a sidecar driver.
The two stroke I seem to remember was built out of a side valve four stroke engine.
I bet Deryk has some pictures in his Archives?
Happy Days.
Regards Charlie..
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Rich.
Have you given up on the BSA project then?
Don't get like me and have to many in build.
Anyway Mick Dickinson on 01709874956 the second person this weekend that wanted his number Ho to be popular .
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Nice outfit, Not a Ariel or a Greeves,But a very nice square barreled Victor BSA with Ceriani forks.
And the chair does look very much like a Kendall and the one in the background.
Must be one of the last chairs built by the Bristol boys???
Oh I wish!!! I Was back then.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
I here Jon is building a "Twinshock" like this. He-He.
Butifull.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Jon.
Look I know it is on there somewhere. ( Jon I have now updated the Triumph BSA four-stud fork page with the information you will need OK.)
But I am just about to update the four stud fork page, so I will take some pictures (Now Done) and put it onto that with measurements later .
Also a page on sorting out the etho-fuel damaged Concentric Carbs. Cant believe the trouble it causes.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Hi Jon.
Just look on the "Otter" site.
Good luck with the bike though.
Are you running it on ASPEN fuel??
Sorted three concentric"s out today, that had been on pump fuel. All had pilot jets blocked including "Bessie".
I even had to snip my guitar strings to help solve the problem and that was a sacrifice but all in a good cause.
Story on you know what.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
I thought that most oversize pistons now used in the post 1965 BSA Bantam trials bikes, were made in China??
I know the one in mine is!! bit of a difficult job to start the taper less barrel onto the piston though.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Totally agree Jon.
This is my thinking exactly,
I have had a very long chat with Eddie Bocquillon, from Aspen, and am currently doing my own test with the fuel.
The results will be on the "Otter" site.
I will probably use this fuel for all of our bikes, including the ones under construction now.
When you think about it hard , well ,it just makes sense !
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's.
Jon,
Sounds like an ideal candidate for some Aspen 2T fuel - no ethanol to wreck the tank and sweet running fuel. Much less harmful emissions,just expensive if you use a lot.{Quote}.
Jon,
Eddie advises Not to use the ASPEN 2T fuel for two strokes? as the ratio of oil may not be right.
What he says is to use the 4T ASPEN fuel and mix your own with the ratio of oil suggested for your machine.
I am currently conducting tests, on the benefits of using this fuel in "Classic Trials Bikes" so keep an eye open for the results.
I am chuffed that I can use this fuel in a "Green" polyester tank that is cheap to manufacture, and for the amount we trials riders use it has got to be the way to go.
And it could be the way to get more "Classic" trials bikes back out there ,with the knowledge that if you use todays "Ethanol" rich pump fuel you are in for trouble with every part of the machines fuel and engine system if you leave this fuel in.
Big subject that could help to encourage more competitive "British Classic Trials Bikes", to get back out there.
Regards Charlie.
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Hi Guy's .
Hi Rich.
You are joking Yea??
Take a look on the "Otter" Site. all info for Ken's "Cotswold BSA C15-25" there. should be 52 1/2".
Regards Charlie.
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