Tr1AL

A farce if you do a farce if you don't . A farce it is then. I think I am just going to start stopping and hopping it at no stop events as no one seems to think stopping is a problem and I quite like the stop allowed rule which is beneficial in some of the very narrowly marked club trials routes sometimes. thanks for everyones input. Best wishes Alan.

You may find it hard to believe but I think you are absolutely right about not having another route and for all the reasons that you have listed .So to stop the farce of people stopping and observers allowing a 3 when they clearly fived it because they feel sorry for them just make the event stop allowed and there won't be any nonsense of making the rules up as they go along or perhaps men can be women depending on who is deciding. Its all very confusing, as they say rules are made for breaking. Best wishes Alan.

I understand your concern about ruining the event I am not suggesting two lines just have an exit point in the section before the super hard stuff for those that clearly are not at that level of riding, it would save time for all and be less of a farce. The real point is trouble with all the stopping in the sections in a supposedly no stop marked trial the top riders can keep the bike going because they have the skills but also because of their fitness level being higher than the average rider. The two routes suggestion is only based on that or the easy way is just mark it stop allowed and the same at club trials that are run as no-stop , all I seem to see is people stopping but the results do not show those fives. To me that is just a farce what is the point of the rule if it is that flexible IE whatever you fancy.

@lemur I Absolutely agree with you regarding the points you make although speaking specifically on the SSDT 2025 out of 280 odd riders a lot of the sections over the week are really only suited to about 25% of that number hence the constant stopping that is seen in the videos perhaps it is time the vast majority of the entry were given their own shorter more manageable sections within the same areas marked out for the 25% that actually can make a good attempt at the present more challenging route. that is obviously designed especially to suit approx 5 riders who are fighting for the win.

If any one cares to engage by watching this video starting at 2mins 12seconds you will see rider 145 making a valiant attempt in the section for a well earned 3 marks lost. And followed by many more well fought for 3 mark losses , they would have been 5s but they felt sorry for them.

Hello trapezeartist to me that interpretation sounds very similar to the no stop rules in the past in the FIM WTC. When will this nonsense stop if they just made all trials stop allowed it would help every one because if you momentarily stop then you have stopped and if the trial is under no stop allowed rules then the mark is 5 lost surely . if you are flexible about this then the rule is not being followed and if you are going to let people stop without penalty then you are using the rules of stop allowed. No wonder the World is in the state it is in after all no one seems to know what a woman is these days so it is no wonder they think that stopping is exactly the same as moving. I do not think their is much point to having the rules if you then move the goal posts around because you feel sorry for people because they have put a lot of effort into riding the section . I think it may be just me as I saw some riders at a club trial recently that were riding a no stop event but were fully stopping and hopping and also actually purposely following a line outside of the marked section in order to ride up a step on an easier trajectory this happened right in front of an observer and these rides were not marked as fives , using your interpretation of the no stop rule I can now understand why this happened.

This may not sit well with some. https://youtu.be/BpUhsyjfHUU?si=U3DfVOaCy4rBU

www.beamishownersclub.com History will give you the most of the story. Regards Alan.

Trials marking is out of the window, not surprising I suppose when the World seems to be full of liars as in people lying to themselves such as what the meaning of the word non-stop is. The spectators at the SSDT all clapping the many obvious 5 marks lost of the majority of the entry , perhaps people think that if a rider manages to travel from the section start to section ends cards means that the 5 marks lost for stopping/reversing 20 times while doing that should not apply because they feel sorry for them. Well as they say 'nevermind'.

I just watched a video of day 3 of the SSDT is this event stop allowed these days? .

@RonH Hello , have you checked that the hole in the Bleed valve is clear of debris and that it has not been deformed at the tip by over tightening . If everything else is fine then that could be your problem, also sometimes they need opening quite a few turns before they will allow fluid to flow well. Best wishes Alan.

You used a confused emoji on something I posted above. ie I said that the things you own end up owning you.

@ stou yeah mmmm try this https://youtu.be/tB_bFTSqaBk?si=zyf8QOXMzubzuNpk

Undo the lock nut on the lever with a 10mm spanner and unscrew the adjuster screw to allow the master cylinder piston to touch the circlip and thus open the circuit to the reservoir. if that does not work you have a blockage somewhere.

Its stunning . All that work and then fits those tyres . I suppose it will give the new owner something to do. Tarting things up is great until the thing gets used for its intended purpose, painting plastics is never a good idea on an off-road bike but even the manufacturers like BETA and SCORPA used to do it but at least they are using industrial duty products that have some chance of survival for a while. Never mind you cannot knock the levels of effort. So a Gold star for that. Well done.