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Perhaps photos of bikes might be of assistance? Then again they could be bound for or even in Europe by now. Lets hope not. As Shaw Taylor used to say "keep em peeled"

2014 hope they're not late LOL Bring nylons and chocolate and they'll clean up Sorry just my sense of humor. Good luck to them at least a Trials World Series should be just that ! oops my sense of humor again LOL

not good for the motor not just plug oiling but on a four stroke can almost eliminate the film of oil that protects the motor when it needs it most on cold start up.

Bob Forrest a member of the trials fraternity has sadly had his garage broken into in the early hours of this morning Saturday 6th April. He was at home in Leeswood near Mold, North Wales and heard a bang but didn't realise what was happening. His newly completed Faber framed B40 and his immaculate TLR with 1 piece tank/seat unit were ... stolen together with two helmets, his trials bum bag and many hand and power tools. Please keep your eyes open and let Bob aka Rob 07810 301980 or rgforrest@btinternet.com or the police know if you suspect you've seen them. This is happening now to the Classic fraternity too often to just be opportunist thieves. Where are these bikes going? Somebody MUST know something. After the theft of Alan Whittons van and stuff plus others this is too much from such a small sector of the trials world to be mere coincidence. As I said somebody must know whats happening to these bikes and bits and by keeping quiet they are as bad or even worse than the thieves themselves.

Bob Forrest a member of the trials fraternity has sadly had his garage broken into in the early hours of this morning Saturday 6th April. He was at home in Leeswood near Mold, North Wales and heard a bang but didn't realise what was happening. His newly completed Faber framed B40 and his immaculate TLR with 1 piece tank/seat unit were ... stolen together with two helmets, his trials bum bag and many hand and power tools. Please keep your eyes open and let Bob aka Rob 07810 301980 or rgforrest@btinternet.com or the police know if you suspect you've seen them.

They don't appear to in the BMCA even now. I've no idea how they get away with that nowadays.

Classics and Twinshocks are just about the ONLY growth area in trials at the moment and guess what they ALL run to non stop rules. You know the ones everybody seems to say are unworkable Well said it's amazing how few of the stop wave your leg in the air hop it rev the nuts off it then dump the clutch mob cant even ride a simple adverse camber. Dynamic balance as in you are moving is a skill related to trials Static balance i.e. when you are stationary is a skill related to pole squatting

good retort and I know what you mean about the European attitude to marking.

Most of the better riders have the bike set with no tick over / idle whatever, BTW idle over here is a word we use when referring to people on welfare benefits , whilst lesser lights have it set to a slow tick over. I don't like having a two stroke tick over cos I feel it causes the bike to gas up or sometimes oil the plug but I do set my bike to have a slow tick over firstly because i'm a crap rider but also I find it helps on descents and tight turns to stop the motor stalling. I do use the clutch a lot and as I said I am a crap rider so don't necessarily follow my example but try it for yourself and see which you prefer.

Man made sections suck. Errr IMHO of course

Had to get one in eh Andy ?

Agreed great looking bike. I always thought the look of the TY250A even in std form was prettier than the subsequent models but the motor was a bit more bulbous. Yours is a credit though.

You really need to use a 4 speed motor as others have said and buying a running motor is always the best option. You could recover most of the cost by selling the 3 speed bits as they are next to useless when building a trials bike. Only bits that I would keep are the left and right covers to help disguise the 4 speed motor if you are bothered about that if not there is a ready market for them from trials riders that are bothered.

If you do have to get it welded it would be best if you do remove from the bike as "electronic" ignition is very easy to damage when any form of electric welding is done. Then of course there's the collateral damage to the bike but it's up to you at the end of the day.

Peak Classic Trials Club hold 12 events a year , one per month weather permitting, all within 15 miles radius of Matlock. Loads of local pubs with accommodation and the sort of terrain you said you were looking for streams, rocky outcrops, woods and moorland. Clubman route is dead easy and sounds right up your street. Check out www.peakclassic.co.uk

Beta Rev 3 and use the money left over to buy gear.

With the UK experiencing an unseasonably cold and white Easter weekend many events being cancelled due to the snow it was heartening to see that Peak Classic Trials Club managed to run round 2 of their 2013 Club Championship thanks mainly to the sterling efforts of the clubs trials secretary Paul Beswick spending two days at the ever popular Stathams farm venue clearing snow and gritting the access road to ensure that the eventual turnout of 40 odd riders were able to enjoy a days trialling in the Derbyshire Peak District. Ten sections were cleared and laid out and riders completed four laps in the sunny but bitterly cold weather. Even though the sections had been mostly cleared of snow the ground was still frozen and with some parts of the sections not getting the sunlight directly there were patches of polished ice forming by lap two especially on the tricky climb of section 6 which caught out many a rider as there was grip aplenty on lap one but this had virtually disappeared by lap two only to thaw again for the final two laps. Tricky conditions indeed with the riders not knowing what to expect from lap to lap. However most seemed to have enjoyed themselves complimenting the organisers on the event which made all the effort to clear the snow worthwhile. Unfortunately there were no entries on the Expert British Bike course so top honours on the route went to Expert Twinshock rider Simon Bown back on his Bultaco who mastered the conditions to record a score of 30 marks keeping Montesa mounted Mark Weston in second on 35 and Rob Mycock following close behind on his Bultaco losing 41. It could all have been so different but for Rob losing 14 to Marks 6 on section 1 but that

Think the real answer to the "problem" Daz is that you brought three observers with you which was great and I truly wish that was the case now but sadly it's not. Most of the riders yesterday come on their own and out of the four observers we had only two came with a rider. I am so grateful for the support of these people as I am for the support of all the riders who came yesterday which sort of made all the snow shovelling worthwhile but I just wish we could get back to those halcyon days when riders came with their families and Sunday was not just a trial but a day out for the family. Never mind at least we managed to get an event on when so many had to cancel for weather reasons and everybody seemed to enjoy themselves. Will be posting the results later when I've had chance to finish them off.

Agreed Daz but I've spent all day today shovelling snow off the sections so fingers crossed for a good turnout of riders. Just two observers confirmed so far but hoping for a few more. At least we've managed to put an event on but it's a thankless job being an observer. At least we can offer them unlimited free tea and coffee.

As the title says I am happy to announce that the trial this Sunday is most deffinately a goer and will run as normal start time 11.00 am but don't forget to put your clocks forward by an hour. I was down there today and have managed to lay out 4 laps of 10 sections with routes for Expert, Classic Expert, Intermediate, Classic Intermadiate and Clubmen. there will be classes as usual for British bikes, Pre 85 twinshocks and pre95 air cooled monos. Also the caravan will be there not just for signing on but serving bacon and sausage butties along with tea and coffee and as usual the PB Trialsport sales van will also be in attendance for your trials consumables and accessories. So come along you must be getting stir crazy by now with all these trials cancelled. We have managed to clear the snow so you can enjoy yourselves. See you there. For more details see our website www.peakclassic.co.uk

Offset as I understand it in this context means moving away from the centre line of the motor cycle. Offsetting the motor to the left of the centre line of the motor cycle or as others have mentioned offsetting the rear rim to the right away from the centre line of the motor cycle frame. Offsetting the motor and rear sprocket still allows the wheels front and rear to follow on the same track or centreline whilst offsetting the rear rim means that the front and rear wheels must follow two different tracks parallel to each other but not on the same centreline. To maintain both wheels following the same track as against parallel tracks the only way I can see to achieve this is to misalign the rear wheel spindle. If you are happy to have front and rear wheels following different though parallel tracks by offsetting the rear rim from the motor cycles centre line than that followed by the front wheel then fine but I was always taught to check wheel alignment by aligning straight edges along the rear wheel and measuring the distance either side of the front wheel which should be the same either side thereby maintaining both wheels following the same track. Something I check on a regular basis. If you move the motor over to the left, in the case of the cub, to increase chain clearance you must also move the rear sprocket to left by the same amount to maintain chain alignment so as not to prematurely wear the sprockets or worse have the chain come off causing damage. If the above means "OTF is getting confused with the term offset?" then so be it. Perhaps I am? Edit: thanks for the sketch Suzuki250 but isn't that what I said ?

Still don't see how the rear wheel if offset / dished can follow in the same track as the front if you don't misalign the rear spindle but obviously all those who move the engine and rear sprocket over are deluded and that includes Sammy Miller and you are right. I doff my cap to you but I will still build my bikes with the wheels following the same track you do what you like. I'm off to answer my phone

Well just thought I would post an update about Sundays trial. As far as I am concerned I do NOT want to have to cancel another round of the Club Championship this year so I will do my utmost to ensure the trial this Sunday goes ahead as planned. The only problem may be the access road opposite the golf course as I am reliably informed that the main Matlock to Chesterfield road is clear. However there is only so much I can do on my own. I will be going up there all day Friday and Saturday from approx. 11.00am to try to ensure everything is clear to run the trial but if anybody can find the time in their busy schedule to come and give me a hand I will be most grateful as after all if you want to ride sometimes you have to put something back and as I said there is only so much one man, me, can do on his own. If the trial can not go ahead, which I sincerely hope is not the case, then I will post it here Saturday evening at the latest. Rest assured I will try my hardest to make it happen and if the weather forecast is correct the thaw and respite from the snow might just come at the right time to help us out for once.

Sooner see him ride a "legal" one now that would be an even bigger rareity

Been building wheels since early 70's so probably do understand what the term offset means. Agree with you that to maintain the wheels tracking parallel as you say you need therefore to "misalign the rear wheel spindle so that it is no longer at right angles to the bike centre line" This will then have an effect on sprocket wear as the engine and rear wheel sprockets will no longer be running true on the same centre line. Getting there slowly aren't we?