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Budget Trials Build

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9 minutes ago, oni nou said:

Will you be splitting the cases to get all the grind waste out of the inside?

I was planning to but don´t have a pulley for it, so gonna but a magnet in the sump and wash it couple times.

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On 1/18/2018 at 4:34 AM, andrep said:

Engine is a Beta TR32 - 240cc, bought it off ebay UK and supposedly it ran...
The holes are from lack of tools from my last place waaay back. I had to narrow down the rear mounts and only had an angle grinder for the job.
If the liquid metal starts leaking I´ll take it to my friend for a weld.

AAhh Machining on a budget.  I also do similar things

"Any engine will fit any frame, but it may need to be convinced a little"

Hoping the liquid metal works for ya, but you may want to invest in a puller, may need it for future maintenance.

19 hours ago, andrep said:

I was planning to but don´t have a pulley for it, so gonna but a magnet in the sump and wash it couple times.

Magnet won't catch aluminium.

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On 1/19/2018 at 2:48 PM, zippy said:

AAhh Machining on a budget.  I also do similar things

"Any engine will fit any frame, but it may need to be convinced a little"

Hoping the liquid metal works for ya, but you may want to invest in a puller, may need it for future maintenance.

Yeah, exactly! Got to make do with what you got :)
It will definetly come, now that I have my own place I´m getting more and more tools all the time.

On 1/19/2018 at 5:50 PM, b40rt said:

Magnet won't catch aluminium.

Sh*t, of course, how stupid of me to forget that it´s aluminum, that´s why I didn´t weld it in the first place in my own place.
Then a thorough washing will have to do, rinse and repeat!

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Place is starting to take shape with the bike... today I got a Telwin, going to need a welder for the engine mounts and rear subframe and pretty sure it won´t end there.
Just need a new balloon since the one I had (40L CO2) doesn´t meet euro standards anymore :mellow:, leaning towards a mix of Argon and CO2.

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The front brakes are also finished and working like a charm, fitment is perfect!
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Okay, so the carb is cleaned and jets are the correct size, hopefully this won´t be a problem.
Had to flatten the engine mount and almost got the footpeg fitted so it doesn´t get in the way of the chain, hopefully I can finish it tomorrow and I´d like to clean up the engine and start putting it together.
I have an old russian ignition coil (6V) will see if it works with motoplat or not.

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Wasn´t as bad as I expected, don´t know yet if I´m missing anything but a days work got everything cleaned.
Lot´s of petrol and brake cleaner :)
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The footpeg clears the chain now, had to file it by hand and touring that I started thinking about the gearing, there´s a 53 tooth ring at the back but the manual says 40, I´m afraid it will be waay too big since the engine is from a trials bike and the gears are pretty close as well...

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Can anybody help with the wiring.
The wires coming out from my engine are black, grey, yellow and green but the manual has black, blue, brown, green... Capture.PNG

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On 1/29/2018 at 7:02 PM, oni nou said:

Finish it then test it and see what the gearing feels  like, no point  worrying about it .....this project is a bit of fun.... you may be able to get a gearbox/engine sprocket with 1 tooth more so that you can make the overall gearing higher.

Talon sprockets in the UK manufacture an 11 tooth sprocket for a Beta TR32.

Yep, boughed just the chain, I can always make it shorter :) and I already have a talon 11tooth in the front, so not too worried about it now!

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Decided to go with thread lock insted of tab washers and made a multitool to tighten all three nuts.
Also have a chain, fuel-filter and hose, hopefully all the tubing for subframe and engine mounts so all I need is enough time to button up the engine and hopefully the coil I have will work.

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So I´m still worried about the wires...
The engine came with a motoplat CDI but it´s shouldn´t be there + I have six cables coming from the engine, can´t find a diagram that maches all the above.
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Had to grind down a nut for the flywheel because couldn´t get a M12x1.25 that would fit a 17mm spanner, but all in all, the engine is togeher with new gaskets but the kickstarter doesn´t clear the frame :shutup:
Wiring black and blue cable to a coil didn´t give me any spark yet so will spend some time googling this ignition system.

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Sucks that the kicker hits the frame, from the bottom photo it looks like it would clear.

Is it just barely rubbing the frame, or worse?  If it is just touching, I'd be tempted to indent the frame at the wear spot with a sledgehammer and large drift pin.

 

It would appear that you have a TR33 engine not TR32  you will need to find the proper wiring diagram and you will need to use the motoplat CDI box. Good luck.

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22 hours ago, slicktop said:

Sucks that the kicker hits the frame, from the bottom photo it looks like it would clear.

Is it just barely rubbing the frame, or worse?  If it is just touching, I'd be tempted to indent the frame at the wear spot with a sledgehammer and large drift pin.

 

It´s a the nut on the top and hits pretty hard, might think about gutting rewelding the frame so there´s room for it or maybe redo the kicker.

12 hours ago, reggie said:

It would appear that you have a TR33 engine not TR32  you will need to find the proper wiring diagram and you will need to use the motoplat CDI box. Good luck.

I was never really sure about that, even contacted a guy on advrider and sent many pictures of the engine but he still thoughed it shpuld be a TR32.
Gonna try to wire in the CDI with a diagram found online but unfortunately can´t find a manual for a TR33

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Okay, so no luck with the spark :mellow:
Figured I´d try this one but nothing, also tried this with three different coils.
http://www.motelek.net/motoplat/exoten/ligier/schema.png

Finaly remeasured the resistance but also read that if you have diodes it´s pretty much impossible to see if the stator works like that, so you´d have to send it to a specialist.
Blue to earth - 208 Ohm
Black to earth - 83 Ohm
White to earth - 104 Ohm
Blue to black - 283 Ohm
Blue to white - 307 Ohm
Black to white - 25 Ohm

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