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RL250 Extra Washer after Split Case
MountainTrails replied to MountainTrails's topic in Suzuki/Beamish
Hi Kurtis, thank you for the reply. I had given that thought. With a 17mm thru hole, the only shaft small enough is the transmission shaft. I've attached a scan of the parts list for the transmission. Item 21 (the shaft) is the only diameter it fits on. The bearing you are suggesting is item 22. I know that the part was on the outside of this referenced bearing, as I was stripping parts to make it easier for the mechanic to separate the case for me, and do the seal work and return to me assembled minus the parts I took off. There are only 2 washers (and 1 snap ring) on that side of the bearing. Those are items 33 and 34. Both of those items seem to be in place. Item 33 is a similar washer but is only 1mm thick. Item 34 is a conical washer (not flat). I'm convinced that the washer came from this assemble, but it's not shown, and all parts accounted for. Can anyone confirm that item 34 is conical? I still have assembly issues if I add this washer, as then the snap ring won't go on. So did this washer come from else where? There are 2 washers of similar nature shown on the Kick Starter Parts List. I have attached that schematic. They are Items 4 and 15. Both of these washers are present on my assembly. Could it have been an additional spacer here? Does anyone have the dimensions of items 4 and 15? PN's 08211-17342 and 08212-20361 respectively. From the pictures I've been able to find it looks similar to item 4 (08211-17342). Kick Starter shaft.pdf Transmission parts.pdf - Today
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2021 em escape no longer runs. Help!
dvtechnics replied to dvtechnics's topic in EM (Electric Motion)
No lever. Has a regen button (i think) on the left side near the clutch -
2021 em escape no longer runs. Help!
dvtechnics replied to dvtechnics's topic in EM (Electric Motion)
I tried adding the video on here but it won't accept it and I guess it's hard to explain. Kinda like the hard disk drive turning a disk but can't read it so it keeps gliching. Probably doesn't make much sense. I'll keep trying to upload. - Yesterday
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Blackmer started following Explorer conversion Kit
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Hi, I've just registered on the site. I have been replacing the fuel pump on my TR 280i and found a few helpful posts here. I was wondering if anyone knows where i can find an Explorer conversion kit. By the way I found the fuel pumps from the KTM 690 Duke's look identical and are relatively cheaper..
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JITSIE made BETA EVO disc spacers/bobbins have these measurements TOP HAT BRIM = 14mm , BOLT HOLE = 6.30mm , DISC LOCATOR BUSHING AREA = 10.20mm . The clutch pressure plate should be under spring pressure and clamping the clutch pack together it should not waggle , if you are referring to the clutch basket moving then that would be movement in the bushing or perhaps the nut that holds it on is loose?. Best of luck. Regards Alan.
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I would start by lining it up with the other bearings in the case. it may be a shim that was added to get the correct end float on a shaft.
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MountainTrails started following RL250 Extra Washer after Split Case
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After splitting the case to replace the crank seals, I have an extra washer! It's 17 X 33 X 1.5 mm. With a 17mm through hole, I assume it's off the transmission. In reference to fig 8 (Transmission) of the parts manual. The only washers on the parts list are Item 33 a thinner (1mm) washer and item 34 a conical washer are both present. I did not go past the bearing so missing item 16 is ruled out. I can see wear marks on the washer that would correspond to the small diameter portion of the conical washer. When things are installed per the parts manual illustration, there is no slop when installing the cir-clip on the end, and installation of this clip is not possible with this thicker washer substituted for the thinner washer. Is it possible to compress the conical washer so installation is possible? Where does this mystery washer go? Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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May 26th 1978 Ex Ssdt Very Special Works Sherpa T
motosinge83 replied to motosinge83's topic in Bultaco
Cheers Chaps! No Facial recognition technology back then. Owner with the Clerk of the Course official yellow armband. Not my bike! Motosinge83. - Last week
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Thanks for the info, the drive gear\shaft is a one piece item but I have now found a replacement although the gear is made out of plastic so hardly a upgrade I may try the old shaft cleaned up with emmery cloth and the new bearings / seal. The forks need a service , the exhaust a good decoking and the rear wheel some replacelment spokes but apart from that it would be nice to enter a trial and seee how she/I cope! Top hats appear well worn I think as they allow radial movement hence they need replacing to make the front end feel more stable on the brakes. Should the clutch pressure plate waggle side to side I wonder? I think I will have to investigate further.........
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If it has 'top hat' washers then it is is a floating brake 😐 the type of disc brake where the disc needs to float to centre the disc between the pads. To do that the disc needs to float side to side and not radially, if the washers are worn in 2 spots radially you can loosen the retaining blot and rotate the top hat washer so it wears in a new place.
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If I remember right those disc's were the floating type. They were meant to move.
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Do you have the variable regen lever option? If so, unplug it as a test.
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Not sure what you mean by a "low pulse tone from the battery." There is a large contactor inside the battery that makes an audible clunk every time the battery is switched ON or OFF.
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@cello www.betausa.com Trials support service manuals EVO 2009- 2015 service manual the motor is very similar to the techno so use that as a guide .Techno details are harder to find now.
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cello started following Beta Techno 250 1996 Water Pump Issues and a clutch Question
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I know this has been covered many times before but I'm wondering how best to remove the bearings from the impeller shaft? Also the metal drive gear will need to be swapped to a new shaft unless they are bought as a single item , I cannot see any wear on the shaft but if I'm changing the bearings and seal it makes sense to replace the shaft does it not....... The impeller was toast when i took the pump cover off and the circlip was missing so thats either somewhere else in the engine or the previous owner failed to fit one. I,ve also noticed the water pump drive seal and bearings are easily sourced from a bearing / seal company at a 1/3 of the price from going to Beta or Trials dealership....mmmmmm Re the clutch , i,ve not had a chance to ride the bike yet but noticed the plates waggle in the basket as if there if thebasket bolts are loose, which they are not. Is this normal ? One other question on the front brake rotor which has to much play in the top hats that seat it to the hub , I asume these are worn and need replacing if they sre still available , any idea of the size in case I have to source them from somewhere else?
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2021 em escape no longer runs. Help!
dvtechnics replied to dvtechnics's topic in EM (Electric Motion)
Yes, maps cycles thru no problem. No tone on maps change but we did have a low pulse tone from the battery that maybe happened 3 times outta the 50 odd times we've started the bike to test. -
Dry air would be OK as a temporary measure, but moisture in the air will eventually cause corrosion. This thread mentions pressure: https://www.trialscentral.com/forums/topic/69619-ozo-pro-trials-rear-shocks-a-look-inside/page/2/ Edit: A more complete answer is that it's the combination of oxygen and moisture in the air that will do the damage. I think using a bicycle tire pump would be much better than a shop air compressor that has not been drained immediately beforehand.
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I have a set of OZO shocks on my SWM TL320. They aren’t leaking oil but are very springy/bouncy. They have shrader valves can i fill them with air? If so how much? I know you’re supposed to fill with nitrogen but I have a trials this weekend and no way to get that done right now. But the air would be temporary. Thanks
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I was riding and clutch was getting less pressure at lever until no pressure at all. I managed to ride back to truck. i found a burn mark on line by the exhaust pipe and lower was wet on line towards clutch cover. i opened master cylinder ( mineral oil) and was empty. I just sold my KTM 300 so have changed out my clutch line before but on the Gas Gas do I just unscrew the line from clutch cover and master up top and replace then use syringe to force mineral oil from bottom up? mahalo! riding on Oahu🤙🏾
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Can you cycle through all the maps? Does the motor emit a tone when you change maps? If so, the controller may not be seeing the throttle input. You'll need a multimeter and some skill troubleshooting electrical circuits. Wiring diagram for the EM Race is here: https://www.electricmotiontech.com/home/em-epure-race/wiring-diagram The Escape will be similar.
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Had this happen to one of my ggs years ago. Once fixed you need to tie the clutch line to one of the down tubes where the exhaust comes out with a zip tie. As for rebleeding, what you have described is correct. There should be a bleed nipple on the banjo where it enters the clutch casing. Just bleed like you would a brake cylinder
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Hey guys. My 2021 em escape r has stopped working. Ran it thru a pretty boring run up the mountain, came back down, everything was fine. The next day I go to start it and nothing. The battery engages, lanyard works, head display shows 98% and switching map to green light but their is zero power to the motor. Tried the reset cycle. Nothing. Even went as far as to replace the throttle control with a new domino throttle. Nothing. Has anyone dealt with this problem or does anyone know how the heck to fix this? Checked all connections, battery, fuse and everything's good.
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Great little video from a new rider here in the Canadian Maritimes . She was sharing a Beta 200 for the event. I was sharing my EM with the landowner and her Husband and son were sharing my Sherco 250 - Great day of fun at new venue for us and great to have new riders out. I thought her description was great !!! 227 views May 29, 2025 NOVA SCOTIA Trials riding is no joke—and neither is trying it for the first time! I entered my very first trials competition as a total beginner and, well… I lost count of how many times I hit the ground. 😅 But honestly? It was one of the most fun and humbling moto experiences I’ve ever had. This video captures the real, unfiltered chaos—crashes, laughs, mini wins, and everything in between. If you’ve ever thought about trying trials or just want to see what happens when a rider jumps into the deep end, this one’s for you. 🏍️ Come along for the ride (and the falls). #FirstTrialsEvent #TrialsBeginner #MotorcycleFails #MotoJourney #FallAndGetBackUpSocial #RideLikeAGirl
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🤙🏾 I was there for a month trying to rent and ride there but sadly it never happened. Terrain looked awesome for trials riding in places I'm sure you're not allowed to ride.
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