That is the most useful response I’ve had from anywhere. Thank you lineaway. I was tending to veer down the Beta route and I think you’ve just confirmed it.
Sidi trials boots don't seem to absorb much water and dry naturally in 2/3 days.
No they don't, mine got a reet soaking the Saturday before last (not at the Scott) and took 7 days to dry (in the house), wore them yesterday and they stink of cat's p*** (we have no cat)
I believe the Montesa uses a different brand of tubeless rim DID vs Morad (my 4RT did), one might be better than the other but both are used on Trials bikes.
You don’t say what clutch-plates you run in your 4RT. But I would certainly take those expectations , and your “super-expensive” oil - and apply them to your new purchase.
Whatever clutch plates Honda put in the bike in 2007 when it was new, never had any bother using Elf 740 and clutch works fine in 4RT - why change the plates?
Never had them out in 10 years+
My 4RT runs like a swiss watch, shame yours doesn't
which would be fine if they were consistent but i gave up after 2 years as some conditions just caught me out every trial, but it was always a surprise. A mont is great when youre riding it but if you get in trouble it seems to suck you into holes.
Yep - watching the same section at SSDT- you see the 4rt riders (experienced ones) getting hung up on stuff and drop into holes that all the 2t riders make short work of
Watch 100 riders through a section and see which bikes drop less marks
So an update on the bike. I was lucky enough to have another ago on the Mont this weekend in the wet. Now the question is what is the knack on riding in the wet on a Mont? I found it has loads of power and torque but I just couldn't get grip where on my 12 year Beta 2t I would have flown up. Now i have to admit I was trying to ride it like a 2t and have read that you need to change your riding style on 4t but it has thrown a spanner in the works as now i don't know if I should get a Mont and take the time to get used to it or stick with a 2t. I would love to hear peoples opinions on both to try and help with my decision as i am now at a totally loss on which way to go. Thanks everyone.
So, you've found the 4RT's achilles heel...............harder to find grip in wet or muddy conditions
I disagree with the comment they suit a very aggressive riding style. I don't ride that way and love my 07 4RT and my 2017 300RR and have no issues riding at a slow and nicely controlled pace. One of my best riding friends has a 4RT and dose very well on his at the lower level (novice I think) with his.
I have also been more aggressive on mine and in comparison to the 2T's I have been on it rewards me about the same when I do.
Maybe its just my stile of riding, or maybe its the way I set the bike up but what ever it is I find them to be great in every condition I have been in on them.
My 2 cents.
Do you have much rain in Boise?
In uk with wet and slimy, moss covered rocks that may be a different proposition on a 4T
Before you ooze too much, only top lad on one is Toby Martyn and he's done very well to make the 2t to 4t switch
Watching most 4RT's this week @ SSDT, it's plain to see they are donkeys (even in some very capable hands) in relation to most of the 2t's ridden by ordinary riders and they spin out very easily on mixed terrain and then it's game over and you're pushing it out of the section
A quick update - I very, very nearly bought a used 2017 model repsol but, on closer inspection, the bike had seen a lot more use than I thought it had from looking at the photos. Wheels scuffed and chipped, fork guards missing, scratches on tank etc. Not really what I'm looking for when spending a lot of money.
So it looks like I'm going to go for a new 2018 model repsol, with a reasonable amount of dealer chucked-in goodies, and 0% over 24 months. With about half the cash put in from me the monthly payments are very doable.
The 300RR would definitely have been my first choice but you've got to stop at some point haven't you, and I see the repsol as being the best compromise between spec and money and it will be more bike than I will ever need, that's for sure.
Will hopefully be able to sort something in next few days, and will keep the thread updated.
Have you not ridden a late model 4rt? The tech`s come on 90% of the Montesa`s sold. As being a package together with the rear shock, the suspension is quite impressive. I do not ride 4RT`s but the family that is my employer has 10 of them. So I ride them weekly. It`s night and day between the bikes with Showa`s and the newer one`s with the tech`s. Quite more lively modern feel to the whole bike.
I shall try one, only had a brief ride on a stock 260
knee/shin pads with side protection?
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Posted · Edited by johnnyboxer
I use Forcefield knee and shin Pads, designed for Enduro but are not hard plastic
They have full knee and shin protection, which extends around the sides
Not cheap at £80 a pair, but never ride a Trials bike without them, after some fairly serious haematomas cause on Enduro bikes, bu foorpegs