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Is that vid for real

Looking at the quantity of views and posts in this thread, there appears a lot of interest in the machine. How many people are actually going to buy/bought one out of interest?

Andy just told me results up on the front page in the next 10 minutes or so

Wiggy first , Ross second Dont know anything else as yet

Riding the Sherco 290 is way easier than the Armstrong 310 I use to have as a nipper ( amongst other bikes) but modern bikes suit my modern living i.e. I havent got the time to do the extensive maintenance If I had the time it would be pre-65 by choice

Quality is worth waiting for

Damn right it was!! When he done it, he was offline and had to take an instictive decision to just do it and he did. Most mortals would have thought.. Hmmmmm hospital job if I do that! Great section Dan

At the top level I gotta agree with Peter above. No one is cooler than Fujigas. James Dabill is pretty cool ( but not at 7am in the morning when hes making a waffle ! )

Just for his pure silky smooth riding style not matched by anyone else its just gotta be Ross Danby I bet you saw that coming

Yeh I can see what you mean now on the smaller wheels. We rarely see a TY80 and co these days so I omitted to consider them

I thought the blue route was pretty easy for a clubman Pete (sections 2 & 4 were spot on). But that low beam on that tree as you come out the brook on section 4 caught me smack in my chops, knocked me off the bike and knocked me out for about a minute or so.. I tried to ride the next section and was all over the place so packed in.. otherwise I would have been in single figures for the 4 laps I think. Head a bit sore today Looking at the white route I thought that looked easier than a white route we set out so not sure why they struggled so much on that. It would be nice to hear from some of the guys to see why they retired You had a bit of a pre-65 thing going there as well and how that guy got his BSA thumper through the blue route I just dont know. I dont normally see them try and ride the harder stuff like that. It was great to watch. Lastly, I really enjoyed the day (until I bashed me head) so thanks a lot for the obvious effort you guys put into it. Well worth the trip down

Nice one Ross

If Andy were to ride trials, thats the bike he would have

I agree. You shouldn't need to allow for it.. but what was interesting is that because that line was available and he took it, he negated the need to risk dropping marks going round the rock like the others did. Maybe thats whats needed for these guys, lay the sections out with wider gates so that the greater risk takers reap the rewards. We have a large rock area at nantmawr quarry and we thought we could just put a set of gates at the front and a set of gates at the other side and they can work out how to get across it going wherever they want. maybe you could do something like that

This just shows how hard it is to lay out 3 routes for riders at this level. When we do a club trial its pretty simple to see where most of the riders will go but with these guys (and girls) anything is possible it seems. I saw Fujigas at the US round section 2 turn left off a camber and leap off a huge rock threw the end gates which itself was on a steep icline It was amazing to see but no one else tried it that I saw, they prefered to go up round the rock even though it took marks off some riders.. Now how do you allow for that?

Well you can either catch it or dive out the way

LMFAO

Yes, I saw that too. Cabestany went back to ask the observer, the observer showed him the cause of his 5 by looking along the line, he looked along the line then just paused for a moment then turned and walked away. Didnt see what Laia Sanz done so can't comment. I have to say the line of sight between markers is a bit dubious at this level. You have tape to keep them in and that should be enough.

Interesting forward thinking. I think that if electric bikes were developed then you could have urban trials without any problems from the environmentalists.. and even further, Trials would be seen in a different light.For the current outdoor trials then its light years away.. I think unless the bikes could be as powerful as current combustion engines, then people would just stop doing it.

I haven't heard of that idea before but on the face of it , it sounds an interesting idea and worth considering. Just thinking of what might happen. Would the riders not all take the safe lines and all finish on max points so they all win? It would become like a game of chess with others watching the others scores like crazy and taking the relevant lines that will give them the win. But those who take the chances and succeed will be victors. .. sounds possible ?

Looking at some old Kick-start videos the other day, then watching the world round at Hawkstone, its pretty clear to anyone that with modern machinery and new levels of fitness and skill from the 'pilots' , trials has progressed to an unprecedented level.. but my question is :- Where can it go from here? I will probably be a bit unpopular with this comment but I didn't find this years Hawkstone as good as last years (TC Party excluded). Even though it was clear that the organisation was virtually spot on and the best you will see anywhere. The reasons being that I had already seen the riders ride a lot of the sections (or similar) last year so I knew that they could do them so there wasn’t that feeling of anticipation and excitement waiting to see if anyone was going to clean section 8 for instance. Last year I camped by it for most of the trial, this year I was at it once for about 20 minutes as the top guys went through. Still impressive skill but not the excitement. did anyone else feel like that? Another point (as already mentioned) was that last year Dougie was having an awesome second lap and we were on tenterhooks watching the scores to see if he was going to pull it off. It was pure theatre.. This year, that wasn’t the case and the atmosphere just wasn’t the same. This of course is taking nothing away from the good rides by Michael , Alexz ,Sam, James etc... but I think everyone was hoping for the 100th . I would guess that the pressure on Dougie to pull that off in front of the huge home crowd must have been immense. The thing that I did like a lot was Fujigas when he is riding like that. He is great to watch as he is unpredictable so comes with excitement as standard! But… getting back to the question, the bikes can still be improved a bit but I cant see another ‘big step’ made by monoshock & suspension technology that will take trials up to an even higher level than it already is ( if that is even possible?) It would be nice to hear a variety of thoughts from others on this topic so…… what do you think? Where does it, can it go from here?

what rumbles ya belly If you're enjoying it, then good luck matey

I agree , Its easy to have a go at an observer when they are deemed to be 'harsh' but what about the countless times that observers see flouting of the rules and do nothing. I read in the FIM rules last night that if a minder or mechanic changes the condition of a section then thats an instant 5. Now everybody does that so did you see any 5's being handed out? I never. If your going to put a rule in then it must be consistently used else remove it from the rule book completely. and dont castigate someone for applying them correctly either. p.s. I did see a youth rider (section 2) get a 5 because his minder didnt have his helmet on looking in the FIM rules theres a fine for that too !

I didn`t catch it all but we seen the tail end of it and it looked very much like all the toys went out of the pram! followed by lots of shouting the bike being thrown on the floor and more shouting and hand waving a few tears, A angry tear off of the score card and stormed into the Montesa pits and more arm waving I know the woman is **** hot on a trials bike, but god when she loses it its a pathetic spectacle she done the same in the US too. If she wants to ride with the men then why cant she take it like a man if it dont go her way ?

Good luck with the trial and thanks for supporting the youth in the midlands centre Hope to see you there all being well