johnnyboxer Report post Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Montesa announces the new Cota 301RR, The most racing-oriented Trial bike. Stay tuned: the presentation will be next October 13th during the Montesada (Tona, Barcelona). Do not miss it! Edited September 10, 2019 by johnnyboxer 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brewtus Report post Posted September 10, 2019 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwb5151 Report post Posted September 10, 2019 Let me guess another 4 stroke 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffraffretro Report post Posted September 10, 2019 ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duggan Report post Posted September 10, 2019 5 hours ago, dwb5151 said: Let me guess another 4 stroke What did you expect? An old antiquated 2 stroke motor ? Surely 26 world championships back to back is enough to prove Honda Montesa know’s a thing or two about making trials bikes! ? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboxer Report post Posted September 10, 2019 Anyone seen a pic of the 301RR? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcrhino Report post Posted September 10, 2019 No, not a two stroke, but probably an old antiquated four stroke ? I wonder if the 'new' 301 RR will have any features from the Repsol works bikes; especially in the engine department? Thinking of dual spark, updated clutch, different gearbox and crankshaft... In other words: a completely different engine. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwb5151 Report post Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, duggan said: What did you expect? An old antiquated 2 stroke motor ? Surely 26 world championships back to back is enough to prove Honda Montesa know’s a thing or two about making trials bikes! ? Compare toni's bike to the repsol you and me can buy. Big difference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyl Report post Posted September 10, 2019 8 hours ago, dwb5151 said: Let me guess another 4 stroke That's all Honda make - no dirty 2 stokes or cows ??? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyl Report post Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, tcrhino said: No, not a two stroke, but probably an old antiquated four stroke ? I wonder if the 'new' 301 RR will have any features from the Repsol works bikes; especially in the engine department? Thinking of dual spark, updated clutch, different gearbox and crankshaft... In other words: a completely different engine. Montesa/Honda historically don't change model name just for sticker change so maybe something new internally? Maybe closer to the RG bikes like Toby Martin and Billy Green have used and other GP2 riders. Rear disc looks FIM style if nothing else. There was a video on the internet a few months back (before Japan WTC maybe) of Bou riding a non repsol model in Japan so maybe testing the 301 engine 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cascao Report post Posted September 11, 2019 Less weight??? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b40rt Report post Posted September 11, 2019 11 hours ago, tcrhino said: No, not a two stroke, but probably an old antiquated four stroke ? I wonder if the 'new' 301 RR will have any features from the Repsol works bikes; especially in the engine department? Thinking of dual spark, updated clutch, different gearbox and crankshaft... In other words: a completely different engine. Hardly a "Replica" ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milkybarkidtech Report post Posted September 11, 2019 The 301 RR I have been told on good authority that it is a new bike. It will be close to that of what grattarolla, marcelli, Moret and the boys from Trial 2 ride. It is also been known that the repsol and standard 4RT will be updated as well for 2020. Patience is a virtue and you will all have to wait and see. Its only 1 month away. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tshock250 Report post Posted September 11, 2019 Someone “in the know” at the silsden world round (no idea who now!) told me the 2020 would be a proper new model, I dismissed it at the time of course but we’ll soon know I suppose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboxer Report post Posted September 11, 2019 All sounds good, new engine and hopefully lighter will be a bonus...............ready for the next decade 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites