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Excellent thanks. My explorer di not come with a service manual when new - this will help until I can get one from the distributor.

I also tried from HideMyAss USA proxy - no luck.

LewisSportUSA web site has been down for at least a week. I tried from several computers around the country and no luck. I chatted with the Lewis sport guys and they said it works fine for them. Does http://www.lewisportusa.com/ website work for you??

Does this mean a service manual does not exist?

The Scorpa TY125 was suppose to be a trials play bike for me and backroad bike for my wife to ride. I bought it on a whim, and then brought it home. The wifey didn't like it. Ooops.... so up on the selling block it goes. I am just trying to figure out the different options. Ossa Explorer is the current favorite. *sigh* I did take out the bike on Tuesday to do the ST at boyds. It was fun, and had no problem dragging my fat ass (220lbs) up the hills. Like most people say "put it and first and rev it - it will go" - and it does.

Anyone know of a big bore kit, cam, clutch kit for the GG125 4T motor. Although the the motor is a Yamaha-Jianshe (China) - its not exactly the same as the Yamaha TTR125. So BJRacing, BBR, Powerall probably won't work. I notice Haines MC in the UK offers a 160cc version, but not a seperate kit.

Hey guys thanks for the info. I took it for a ride and fell in love with it right away. Its perfect for my wifey. I figure I'll give it a go for a while and sell it if its too anemic for me - or maybe put in the big bore. I am just going to putt putt on trails anyways - no splats or anything. I am struggling trying to figure out its year. The dealer said 2012, but its a bit too worn for a 2012. The 12th digit of the VIN is a 0, so does tha mean 2010? My bike is orange with orange front fender and electric start. Looking at the wayback machine, the history from the scorpa site: 2008 - blue - kick start 2009 - no 125 2010 - orange with silver front fender - kick start 2011 - no 125 2012 - orange with orange front fender - kick start (but mine is electric start?!?!)

OK, I used to have trials bikes. I had a Beta 4T long ride and loved it. Fantastic on the tight single track. But I sold it and went total enduro - 350 4T. I like the enduros but I am still hankering to have a trial bike for really technical stuff. Tight PWN wooded routes or slick rock type stuff in Moab. Anyways, I thought I could buy an older used trials bike, but what I can get for $2500 is really worn out crap. So... I thought: why not get a bike that my wife can ride, and then I can use it when I wanna do technical stuff? I could sell her Honda CRF150F (the "friendly" air cooled bike) and use that money to buy an OSSA Explorer or one of the little air cooled 4T Scorpas. There is one for sale, but it is a ferry ride away and 200km driving. Of course I will test ride it before buying, I just want to know if its in the ball park. If not, I wont even bother. OK, so that brings me to the question. I am 6'2" 220lbs (15.7 stone, or 1.3 big ass bolder). Would this bike be to under powered as a technical trail bike? Would it have enough guts to drag my fat ass up super steep Moab-like sandstone? Is there enough room in the cockpit (with risers) for a big guy? I have *no* expectations of going fast or jumping. I *might* ride intermediate with it - but rarely. thanks for the help!

Yes the 650 is expensive - no doubt about that. The Oregon is the same but smaller and a bit cheaper. Since I do a lot of mapping, I prefer a dedicated GPS for the job. I have hundreds of hours using my Montana in extremely rough conditions (hare scramble races) and pouring down rain. Works very well. Works with gloves on too. Samsung S2 has a built in GPS. It does not need any cell service for the GPS to work - if you have the right GPS app. It might be that your GPS app needs to be online for its maps. There are a number of GPS apps you can get which allow you to download offline maps ahead of time, then you will not need any cell service. A few of the apps are: Backcountry navigator ViewRanger Trimble Outdoors Outdoor Navigation And there are others.

My 08 Beta Rev 4T had the big jump to 4 and then 5. I know lots of things changed in 09, gearing might have too - not sure.

Thanks for the replies guys. Copemech - why don't you think the Sherco would fit me? As for the Monty, I notice its a 5 speed gear box - is it quite a jump to 4 and 5? I found that really annoying on the Beta 4T.

I had a Beta 4T and an old gasser 2000 2T. Both were fine bikes. I used them on the trails, not for competition. However I bought a KTM enduro a couple years back and since sold the bikes. ...but... I am looking for a trials trail bike again. It just hard to get away from the fun put-put that you can get from a trials bike. Plus there is a couple of cross country events that only a trials bike will do. So I am looking for some suggestions for a trials trail bike. - modern trials bike, but older - say 2000-2004. - something with a more spread out gearing. I hated the 5 sp tranny in the Beta 4T. 1-2-3 bull low, then big jumps to the 4-5 road gears. Drove me nuts. - something I could put a seat on - yes, I am a lazy ass. - something easy to ride. The Beta 4T was very tame and fun. Locally there is a Monty 250 2000 and a Sherco 2002 290 for sale. Both look in decent shape. Suggestions?

I used a Garmin Montana (big screen). Mounted right between the bars with the rugged mount. Worked Excellent. Put up with lots of abuse. BTW if you have a smart phone with built in GPS, it should work without any requirement for cell connection at all.

Thanks for the info. My local distributor has fork springs, but nothing for the shock. I am having a hard time finding out even why type of shock it is?!?

I have a 2008 Beta Rev 4T. I weigh 250lbs (113kg). Obviously I need beefier front/back springs than stock. Two questions: 1. How do I determine the correct stifness of springs? 2. Where do I get them? I'll do the work in my own shop. thanks.

This is the one I bought: http://trailtech.net/tto_tach-hour.html

I got an hour meter/tach for my 2008 Rev 4T. It can be configured to 1, 2, or 0.5 pulses for each crank revolution. I am guessing its 1. Sound right? thanks

cool - that does it - I see they just unscrew.

The regulator rubber mounts on my 08 Rev 4T are broken. One is ripped in half, and the other is on its way out. I am not sure if this is the same mount for other bikes, but on my 4T it mounts between the back of the engine and the swing arm. Anyone ever replace these? How do you do it? It looks like they are a permanent mount?!?! Thanks

Here's another picture of Gabriel Reyes on the OSSA Explorer in the SSDT

I would say the OSSA explorer is already a "long ride" it has a seat and the tank capacity is 8,6 litres (the TR280i is 2,6 litres) I just heard today that pre-production has just been finished and they are shipping the first bikes out to various countries for road registration. Can't wait to see it.

Looks like the factory is getting ready to ship the explorer: http://www.ossamotor.es/EN/

Here is a youtube of a guy in Indonesia doing some backyard trials section with the freeride. He comments that it has the same geometry and torque of a trials bike, but is heavy and awkward. Well I guess that's what you get with a 4T, seat and 10" of travel. Plus, since it is street legal is has a ton of emission crap hanging off it too. Its all about trade-offs.

Still Greek to me!