ChrisCH

Hmmmph The Jitsie site no longer shows the 51T variant. Neither does S3 (don't think they ever did one) I did look when we had the old bike with the smaller chain and remember a 51 in Jitsie for sure. There is a 52T listed. You might have to bite the bullet and get one made. https://www.motorcycleraceparts.co.uk/motorcycle-chains-and-sprockets/bespoke-custom-made-one-off-special-rear-motorcycle-sprockets/

Jitsie do an EM rear sprocket for the smaller chain size in a range of tooth variants. Splat shop sell them but are out of stock on all but the 55T https://www.splatshop.co.uk/jitsie-solid-rear-sprocket-4-bolt-428-pitch-electric-motion.html?srsltid=AfmBOoo28NUBvJw_1_RLu4wrbq0-NU8ANVXhpK9ORKej5Dh_TD-ohhUPoLM Might be worth asking if they are planning on gettig the 51 any time soon?

I like the Mecatecno but they do not (as best I can see) do much marketing. I have only ever seen one - the one at SW Trials and it was there for a very long time. It is a big leap of faith to buy something at the top end of prices without a test ride and when you do not know anyone that has one. They don't have a demo fleet with the importer like EM. That was what I meant by not cutting it. I am sure the bike is a good bit of kit.

The market has changed big time - you are right. Was the Mechatecno the SW Trials one? It was a couple of years old IIRC but unused. People are still buying bikes and are buying new bikes but I think the cheaper stuff was massively overpriced for a while and some sellers still kite flying.

I think there is room in the market for another electric as well as EM. Mechatecno are not cutting it (much as I like their bike). I thought Gasgas might have a model out by now but the parent company's financial problems probably explain why they have not.

Last bump of the thread. There are 10 places left this morning - fortnight to go. Weather looks OK. Still some slots for the Factor-e if you want to try one. (There are two in our club now). Our practice day should be fun as well.

A flare nut spanner might be the answer. It is a type of open ended spanner with a bigger purchase. An example is here: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/spanners/2358029?cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-bing-_-PLA_UK_EN_Catch+All-_-Mechanical,+Fluid+Power+%26+Tools-_-2358029&matchtype=e&pla-4574999185500285&cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=554644865&cq_term=&cq_plac=&cq_net=s&cq_plt=gp&msclkid=095f50e9815a1b0f8679389616c21e79&gclid=095f50e9815a1b0f8679389616c21e79&gclsrc=3p.ds&gad_source=7

The Inch Perfect rides include the new Escape XR if anyone is interested - quite a few of the slots for that bike gone. We will put a small area aside to test it. Still plenty of chance to try out the Factor-e. https://inchperfecttrials.co.uk/products/2024-em-escape-xr-enduro-tyres

IP booking now open. https://experience.inchperfecttrials.co.uk/em-test-ride-selby-trials-park-wimborne-dorset-bh21-3qz/ Don't forget to bring your bike and have a ride with us as well.

Beta have a main parts source in Ireland https://www.nmcbikes.com/beta-parts/ The Rev4 is not a current model but you should be able to get most parts you need. The suspension is obselete but can be repaired or rebuilt. You will need to pay VAT and import on anything shipped from UK.

Great stuff and very interesting. Above my pay grade on the electronics. How I wish we lived near to oneanother. The regen on the throttle is very interesting - that would be a game changer for a lot of people that I can think of. I agree on your observation about the clutch as well - it is a weak point on the newer bikes I think - our Factor-e is not outstanding in the clutch operation. I would turn off the tickover for myself but the wife likes it. We had booked to ride with Gael who was one of the development riders but his recent injuries stopped him from being able to do the training. Hopefully that opportunity will come up again. I would love to go through some of this with him (it will help improve my French as well......)

I have a TRS but have never been more than about 20mph on it. Have you thought about a Beta Alp? You can do long distance trials and green lanes and so on. I keep looking for one but they are hard to find and the new ones are "rally" type to cash in on the adventure bike fad. I have a CRF250L but it would be useless for trials. Great fun though.

I locked up the wife's Ducati with a disc lock when we went on holiday. When we got back I couldn't get the thing to work - the lock barrel had failed and the key wouldn't open it. I tried oil and all sorts but it would not come off. A customer offered to cut it off for me which was an offer I accepted. He had a small battery disc cutter/angle grinder in his van with a cutting disc on it. The disc cutter took the lock off in about 15 seconds. It was pretty quiet and my missus in the office 20m away never heard it.

Do a Johnny cash and bring it in one component at a time 😁

Check with them but I think this is the one that will retro fit the earlier bikes. https://inchperfecttrials.co.uk/products/2024-em-main-command-switch-map-button-fits-models-race

Will the new up/down map switch fit your model? I thought they were on the later bikes. The factor-e will move maps up or down on the fly. Its one of the things I think make it better than an ICE bike. I seem to remember the same switch configuration being on the other bikes but our old bike ('21) had the push button set up which scrolls sequentially through as you describe.

Entries for the practice day open on the 21st. Search "xhg" on the sport 80 site. https://acu.sport80.com/public/wizard/e/205401/home

Our club (XHG Tigers) will host a test day with Inch Perfect at our ground near Poole/Bournemouth. Date (unless everything goes wrong) is planned for 9th August. We will put a practice trial on as well so you can have a ride if you bring your own bike. I will update this thread as all the details finalise and the invitations for the test rides and trial go live. Hope to see a few of you there on the day.

Clay says the bean counters are not pushing him around. I think he should maybe let them - just a bit.....

You might find the parts you need here: https://classicandvintagesuspension.co.uk/product-category/front-suspension/betor/

You would need to find a courier that understands the correct paperwork, but in theory there is nothing to pay in import or VAT. https://www.chamberelancs.co.uk/2021/11/export-and-return-of-goods-for-repair-to-and-from-the-eu/

Most local bike repair outlets will service forks. My local one does mostly motocross, but will work with trials forks too. I am also lucky to have a suspension specialist nearby as well. https://www.racelab.co.uk/ However Betor are not a brand most will know or be able to get the parts for if doing a full rebuild. I think the OP will need to send them back to Spain. That would be my number 1 option. Sadly it is (now) a major PITA with all sorts of VAT and import/export BS to do and hoops to jump through. Might try https://twsuspensiontech.co.uk/services/shock-rebuilds-repair

The manufacturers do a restoration service - you'd need to ship them back to Spain. https://www.betorspain.com/en/1076-restauracion-betor-forks.html

Thanks for that very informative post Alan. My missus has the '25 Factor-e and the front disc has a very slight noise under rotation. The mud and a bit of wear has shut it up but that explanation is very helpful in understanding the issue. She had a Beta Evo years back and I replaced the disc with a Galfer and it was much better than the Beta OE. The current EM setup is very good though - the braktec stuff is excellent.

The bike will climb a steep rocky hill very well. The electric motor gives enough power at low revs to tackle most stuff. The big thing to get your head round is the lack of a flywheel. When you roll the throttle off the bike stops. It takes a bit of time to get used to but I am sure you will find it OK. You need a clutch on a petrol bike so you can build power on the engine without forward motion. Electric is a different mindset. The lack of a clutch is more an issue if you want to power the front wheel up from stationary or very low speed. You need to compress the forks and blip the throttle. To be fair I need the same technique on my Honda CRF but my TRF will lift the wheel on the clutch very easily. I hope you enjoy the Escape and it solves your issue. If money were no object I would buy one tomorrow.