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"For me I get no power when holding onto something thin and need to squeeze my hand together constantly. " So how do you manage to pee? Do you get both hands wet?

Ha but there where some doubled wall headers back in the 80's.

Make that four old farts and one bucket of diarrhea........ Guess who is carrying the bucket? LOL

007 I guess we will agree to disagree. The oil helps to keep latent heat in the exhaust header which in turn helps with scavenging. Hot rods etc wrap the header pipes in thermal bandages to help keep the heat in them this in turn helps the exhaust cycle scavenge more efficiently. In the end it is all academic as it will not help me keep my feet on the pegs

"Getting back to the original question, more oil gives more power and less wear, deposits are not an issue, the only potential downside is you spend a bit more on oil. Cheers " Thank you dadof2 It took a long time but someone finaly caught on to what I was hinting to. I asked this question way back at the beginning of the post. I wrote "First a question: What burns hotter a gasoline fire or an out and out oil fire? What would a fire fighter say is the hardest one to fight oil or gas?" The point is oil not only lubricates but also burns hotter and providing more power..............

Nice one Darrell......... Hey Cope you know trials bikes have disc brakes and tubeless tyres now! LOL...........

Cope. You wanna play? I actually ride trials, I actually practise with other trials riders, I may not be that good a rider, but I ride! Please tell me when the last competition you rode was, the last time you practiced with a bunch of trials riders. I get all the Texas Yahoo mailings, scores and riders places your name is know where to be found anymore. Maybe ten years ago yes but recently I think not. Reading about trials on the net is not the same as actually riding trials. Get out and ride and less bench trialing.

0007 Surely a definitive, succinct answer was never an expectation of such a lucid, subjective topic? LOL

Less oil = More Pepsi The main factor for exhaust clogging is a person starting their bike. Sorry, but is early in the morning!

AND to add to what 0007 said one of the biggest variables is the the gas it self. Even within one type of gas it various from batch to batch and geographic location to location oxygenated etc, elevation, temperatures, humidity etc. How long it sat in your bike or its container, in the sun in the shade, in a plastic gas can a metal gas can, pre-mixed, straight gas etc. This is an international Trial site therefore grades of gas with RON or octane numbers will also vary from country and continent. All gas oil ratios quoted on this site or any other bike site are purely subjective, hearsay, tribal knowledge, relative to one's own experience or those handed down from others. Air filter oil and the maintenance of the air filter all play a factor in this equation also. As far as I am concerned any talk of oil ratios are at best academic and riders opinions are like hairstyles ever body has one and they think theirs is the best (that is why I am bald). However there are a basic range ratios that one must fall within, stay in these ranges and fine tune from there. After thirty odd years of riding trials I have never heard a rider say he lost a trial due mixing his fuel at 80:1 instead of 100:1 Lets get pragmatic here.

Cope. Scottish pork is made out of beef and our other national drink is made out of girders (I know that went right over your head)

Cope Does Spring Creek BBQ sauce separate from the meat if overcooked?

Canuk maple syrup up against Texan BBQ sauce................... LOL Hey 0007 will you be at Ioco? "Mr Blowfeld, I like my oil shaken not stirred"

Yes Mark one more question? We have not seen you at a trial or in fact out practicing for years now or are you just bench trialing or surf trialing now? PS: We now have tubeless tyres and there is talk of water cooling what next disc brakes? The question was for others also! Let them answer if they like!

Without giving away my thoughts just yet check back a few posts ago when I stated that most two stroke oils do not burn but rather blown through the engine and I was told I was nuts LOL quite true but not really LOL I will check back to which post it was and re post it here. There is a lot more to oil and gas mixing than the average Joe knows about nor cares to know about. In the end it doesn't not really matter get the oil and gas in roughy the correct ratios and go. Jetting and gas to oil ratios do go hand in hand though. Are you going to be at IOCO next weekend if so stop by and say hi.

0007 I like what you wrote. Pragmatic, basic common sense. Good stuff! I asked a question earlier to the to the forum that seems to be tossed aside LOL What burns hotter a gasoline fire or an out and out oil fire? What would a fire fighter say is the hardest one to fight oil or gas? Seems like a weird question, it is in fact a very pertinent question to this topic. We will see if anybody comes up with the reasoning.

First a question: What burns hotter a gasoline fire or an out and out oil fire? What would a fire fighter say is the hardest one to fight oil or gas?

Crash Monkey You do not need a Beta manual to get these torque specs. All you need to know is the size of the metric bolt, nut and look up the specs for the respective bolt or nut on Google. Beta or any bike or car manufacturers do not make up torque specs but rather use standard torque value that are set out by industry. Hope this helps?

Watch out Bou.......... One wheel OAP coming........... LOL www.bloomberg.com/video/92238285-the-4500-wonderbike-set-to-hit-streets.

Hey Martin I tried to respond to your e-mail you sent me today but your regular e-mail account says that your box is full? Let me know when it is clear so that I can send my response. Cheers

Martin I tried to send you a PM but your box is not accepting anything. We need to talk, Please e-mail at williamtraynor@hotmail.com Thanks

Miss Piggy What, no wise crack about my vacuum comment? Perhaps "burned off" is a miss nomer. The oil changes state in the ignition process. What do you think smoke is? Co2 basically? Smoke is still carbon based. The oil does not just vaporize. Some gets blown out and some changes state. Oil is carbon based, smoke is carbon based. The oil in the two stroke is to lubricate not produce energy. The bike would run on just gas alone not for long but it would run before it seizes up. "By combusting hydrocarbons within the fossil fuels, carbon dioxide (CO2) gas is liberated (as well as many other compounds such as CO which result from imperfect combustion). This is also the greatest reason hydrocarbon fuels lose much of its weight after completely burning, the carbon content within the hydrocarbons have been lost from burning and conversion into CO2." Read more: http://wiki.answers....e#ixzz1wbvc7FbM Back to you Miss Piggy

Gasgas249 I think you penned the reply eloquently. I agree with oil been sucked up from the crankcases due to separation etc. However may I offer the fact that revving a bike does not produce a higher vacuum as the strength (torr or Manometric Units) of the vacuum is set by the stroke and piston size, cavity to fill and atmospheric pressure and is a constant. Revving a bike increases the frequency of vacuum pulses per minute therefore simulating a higher vacuum effect i.e. a hundred RPM equates to say 100 vacuum pulses per minute vs 1000 RPM equating to 1000 vacuum pulses per minute. It is this more frequent pulse/pull that draws up the oil from the crankcase. A 125cc does not become a 300cc just because you revved the engine up. The second point is that the oil in the gas oil mixture does not actually burn but rather gets spat out the exhaust.

I guess this means your bushings are wore out?

"ya thin hes thick, hees sen the restofit!" Cope, you are starting to write like you speak, you must be from Texas with penmanship like that ! LOL Was that your attempt at an Austrian accent? Maybe you where asking me if I thought he was dumb? No I was not, many smart people have forgot about the wavy retaining clip and just start banging away.