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Warby, pretty much sums it up, just what I think, great bikes to ride and by far the best trials bikes in my opinion, but not to good on holding together and can be prone to the major breakdowns. Betas very reliable, hardly ever a major breakdown but not quite as nice to ride as the Gasser. Chain pads? yer done two now and a tensioner arm, I can live with that and the few loose bolts. Sure I will be tempted back to a gasser in the next couple of years and deep down I know i will regret it

Always used TTS but have been using Repsol for the past 6 months, seems very clean and run at 70ml per 5 litres of Super unleaded or 50 - 50 Avgas

Looks like the Gorilia just has it then

Mackum, you ve got to be carefull on Ebay, its a great place to buy and sell but does have some real wrong ones using it. Surprised you bought off the guy in the first place as he must have had either a minus one feedback score or at the best one good sale and one bad. I buy from ebay quite alot and my business sells aprox 60% of its turnover using it, its a great way to buy and sell. Personally I would never buy from a new user or anyone with less than 20 feedback and they must have a 99% feedback score. There are lot of companies coming into ebay as they are realising how good it can be for sales, I recently saw and purchased from Sandifords. I always take the attitude with Ebay that if something looks too good to be true, it usually will be

Mackum, be a big help if you tell us his user name, if you paid through paypal you should get all your money back, go through the complaints section via paypal, Ebay is a waste of time to try and get your money back

looks quite tidy from the picture, good luck with the trials, it is a great sport and loads of fun

Bolts are sh**e on the Beta, always have been, get as many changed as possible before your first ride

Lewis, I ve had 8 gassers now, most were good bikes a couple a nightmare, one of which was resold after only having it 5 weeks from new. After trying a Beta the difference in build quality over the gasser is greater and the Betas dont tend to have major problems with them ie water pumps,clutches and gearboxes. Not all Gassers are like it but some are, non of my mates would ever buy one again after trying them in the past

Ralph, you'll have Caber after you with a post like that, he loves his Sherco, Lesley? did you name the Beta after that bird you used to knock around with, you remember the dependable well shaped one, a little over weight and you could ride all day with no breakdowns

Yer give them all a go, the gasser is really nice to ride but thats not everything. Got no interest in the Mont at all, the Sherco feels really different to everything else and very low at the front end. Had a go on a Scorpa a few months ago and quite liked it, good power and felt light and easy to ride although the non flat bash plate had me off first time I sat it down on a log.

Not doubting you Coxy, you ve got one of the good ones I think from what i ve heard from lots of previous gasser riders and theres lots of them now. Great bikes to ride and without doubt my favourites but still cant bring myself to buy one, very hard sometimes though

Week off mate, your slacking, expect i will do the muppet thing soon, got my first trial coming up for over two years soon. Ride well in practice and playing about, then total tw*t as i go through the start cards in a trial, almost like i have never ridden before

Barry, how did you get on at the trial today? 07 betarev3, maybe that says alot for you, where have all the gasser riders gone in the past 5-6 years? Beta, Sherco Mont

Go and have a chat with some Gasser riders and see what they say regards breakdowns and maintenance, they will rave about the way the bike rides as they are the best for it, may help make your mind up. I 'm probably not the best person posting on gassers after the problems i had but i would love to own another but think i would have to save up for a spare one just incase. One day I will get one and hope i dont regret it, will definately get some stick from our lot as well

Yer Coxy, not saying they are all like that but they do need looking after well and if punished abit they do fall to bits, no doubt about that, 90's Gassers are pretty much bullet proof but the 01 onwards are fragile and i would nt like to take another chance at the moment

Nothing wrong with loosing weight, eh Ralph. As long as it isnt at the expense of reliabilty and strength.

Yer, Betas very popular bikes in the last few years. I rember though say 8 years ago nearly every adult bike was a gasser like the beta today, and they seem to have blown it, dont see many these days compared to Beta,Sherco Mont etc. Everyone i ve talked to about gassers love the way they ride but the breakdowns are many by the sound of it. I love the maintenance side of having bikes, but could not put up with breakdowns, last Gasser i bought and may be the last was a 01 and it broke down 3 times in a month and went straight back for a beta, two ignitions and a clutch, let me down really bad at a trial in Glos and it had to go

Quite a few bolts come loose on the beta's just tighten them up before each ride, no real hardship. Loctite them if you want to be sure, a small price to pay for having a bike that is as reliable as the beta. We are noticing though the build quality is getting worse though and i am a little p****d off about the 1.5 kg the 07 has somehow lost over the 06? what have they skimped on to loose that much weight. Keep the bike reliable Beta or your sales will dissappear, I am sure most beta sales are due to reliability and not light weight.

If you like lots of maintenance and breakdowns go for the gasser 100%, they definately ride better than any of the other bikes including the Beta. I would love to get another Gasser after riding lots of them in the 90's but would nt buy one now. The Beta's are easy to work on and very reliable, may not be a light and nimble as the Gasser but you know its going to start every time and not fall to bits or have quite major breakdowns if you get a bad one. Hope to get another Gasgas one day but not untill the unreliability is sorted out, they are just to fragile these days i feel, especially if you ride alot

BM BM, yer been going on and on and on about it here, bit of a nightmare bike, just unlucky, someone has to get one. First out of about 20 so not a bad average I suppose

Take the plug cap off and test the H/T wire is producing a spark, may just be the cap itself. Expose a few wires and test the spark as you would a plug. If there is no spark it may be the ignition itself, had an ignition unit go on a 01 Gasser before but its either working or not, it wont produce a slight spark if knackered

Will have some magic fingers on the bike next week, so hopefully it will run as good as the 04 did, I wont miss posting about the mikuni either, hope it gets sorted next week.

Great advert Paul, wait till the web master spots it though.

I know what you mean Barry, this sport is begining to take my life over abit, never skived off work so much as i have in the past 6 months, really enjoying it. Good luck with the move and get that land sussed out for us all.

Barry, lucky sod!!! apparently houses are available from