|
-
I think that Dan was suggesting that the kill switch might have been working unexpectedly. They can do that even if they won't stop the motor when you want them to.
If you're having plug cap problems, make sure you are using the correct plug top for the cap. The standard Beta cap requires you to remove the aluminium nut from the top of new spark plugs. If you don't, the cap won't stay put.
-
Just because the float height is set right, doesn't mean that the fuel level is right!
Possibilities include:
Floats not floating high enough in the bowl (usually due to a float containing some fuel)
Float needle valve not sealing off fully
A good test for the fuel level being too high is to turn the fuel off while you are riding around. If the symptoms disappear for a while before the carby bowl goes dry, you have narrowed it down to fuel level being too high.
The other info you have not given us is:
Has the bike has just developed this problem while you have had it or was it like this when you bought it?
David
-
If it was your plug cap jumping off, you would have had to put it back on again to get going again wouldn't you??
-
If you are not yet an accomplished rider, a newish bike will help you improve your riding faster than a twinshock as the stronger feedback you get from a modern bike trains your brain faster to do the right thing.
If you are an accomplished rider, there are few things better than riding a twinshock against modern bikes and winning.
Most people who have enjoyed riding and owning a twinshock (or classic) bike and then sell it, later wish they hadn't.
-
Montesa did make some dark green-tanked trials bike models (Cota 172 maybe) but not the Cota 348 model. Have a look at your frame and engine numbers and Jared Bates' excellent website if you want to work out what you are looking at.
http://www.southwestmontesa.com/montesa/gallery.htm
David
-
Nigel Dabster
You've got a good memory and eyes like a hawk. Yes the black painted bit on the ribbed section and spoke flange has to wait till next weekend. The conical polished bit is standard though.
That reminds me of something. The brochure shots of my M198 look quite drab with the black motor and black fork sliders compared with the preceeding shiny models. I do like to maximise shiny bits but am keen to have it look like it did from the Bultaco factory.
OTF what's that about no TLS front brakes on twinshocks? It's OK here in OZ with rules only specifying "drum brakes" for twinshock class. Don't see too many TLS brakes though. Maybe it's the travelling backwards fright factor?
DabDab the linings for the M198 are relinings of the original shoes by an automotive brake company using a very high friction coefficient material. I've recently fitted a set to my KT250 (after machining hub and shoes) and it is a revelation. I'm in the process of fitting a set to my 250 Majesty too and expect to be assembling the wheel this weekend. Will post results.
-
Thanks guys. I agree with your suggestions. I think I gave the impression of being a bit of a yokel with those photos. They are "before"photos of a bike which came in boxes and had been sitting around for about 20-25 years, judging by the age of the tyres (Japanese trials universal Dunlop on front as fitted to TY twinshocks when new, and Pirelli MT13 on rear).
I've attached a photo of the front wheel in the process of being restored as a reference for the standard of the restoration I'm aiming for.
By the time I get to ride this bike it will:
Have had high friction linings fitted to the Bultaco shoes, and machined back to exactly fit the drum, while in position on the backing plate.
Have had both drums lined with steel (front drum already lined when I got it and has just been machined to remove slight grooving and rust) (cast iron liners not available where I am getting the rear drum lined).
Be using a rod and left brake pedal.
Have the backing plate centralised when tightening the axle nut.
Have a lubricated cam and bush and brake pedal pivot.
Have a high tech, low friction front brake cable.
Be using the original AMAL brake lever.
Have a lengthened brake arm on the front.
Bushing the pivots as suggested by Nigel Dabster will get rid of 99% of my issue with the design so I'll probably go that way.
Thanks
David
-
The offset pivot arrangement for the brake shoes in both wheels of my M198 had me wondering if there were brake shoes from a different bike that would fit and not have the offset pivots. I'm trying to maximise the performance of the brakes by avoiding the eccentric loading against the drum that the standard bultaco pivot arrangement creates.
I have looked in the EBC catalogue and there were a few alternatives that looked like possibilities. Fantic 240 shoes appeared the closest in the catalogue. They are for the same diameter drum and are the same width shoe and use a standard pivot arrangement.
I know I can have the existing shoes modified by welding and machining then relined but it would be a lot easier if some other shoes fitted.
Has anyone tried something like this?
Thanks
David
Photos added
-
TLM 50s are a good choice for sub-adult size youngsters wanting to ride twinshock class as they are a bit smaller all over than a full size bike and quite light for a twinshock. The motor performance is very good for a 50. Standard size trials tyres, while not leaving much clearance at the swingarm, can be fitted.
As far as I know they were only sold new in Japan, but there are quite a few now which have been imported second hand (to Australia) from Japan.
Motor parts (not that they usually need them) are not too hard to get as the motor is shared with a Honda moped or scooter. Body parts are scarce.
The photo is of a youngster in our local club on her TLM50.
-
Yes, good quality industrial and automotive rubber hose bought from the reel nowadays is usually ORTAC (oil resistant tube and cover). It's not too bad with high temperatures either. I have had some on an exhaust join (main section to muffler on a 2 stroke) for 5 years now without any problems either.
-
It's not just a bigger piston job to get to 200cc.
You need a bigger cylinder sleeve, head machined and also crankcases machined for the bigger sleeve.
Various pistons are available. Some pistons require a spacer under the barrell. Some pistons need the gudgeon pin holes bushed down.
It's a big job. Are you still keen to do it?
-
-
There are options for getting the old oil out.
You can drain the gearbox through the filler (inverting the bike) but it is a lot of trouble and quite messy.
You can drill out the remains of the plug.
You can drill a small hole in the plug and use an easy-out tool.
You can work on loosening the plug by tapping against the sealing flange with a pin punch.
On the 348 the clutch/primary drive oil is seperate to the gearbox oil and usually has a decent drain plug so you should be able to change that oil without any hassles.
By the way, there are many species of snakes here in OZ that are more dangerous/venomous/aggressive/poisonous than the US (or Mexican) rattlesnake. It is a well developed habit here to look before you put your foot down when riding or walking.
-
Our local club doesn't include twinshock class ie they only run rider grading classes so I ride on my twinshock against modern bikes.
Most open trials include a twinshock class so I usually ride that.
Some other open trials are for twinshock and classic bikes only.
Last year my wife sold her modern bike so whatever trial I ride now it is on a twinshock bike. Before that I sometimes rode the modern bike.
-
You can do whatever you like with the clutch. It is whether the bike stops or not that counts as far as scoring goes.
If you are a died-in-the-wool stopper, you might find that to start with you will do less accidental stopping if you leave the clutch alone.
Personally I find it so much easier to ride using the clutch that I prefer to use it and pay close attention to keeping the bike in motion.
-
Your message was a bit hard to work out, but it sounds like where you ride, the twinshock class rules include a stopping penalty while the modern bike class rules allow stopping.
Contrary to what are saying about the rules in the 1970s, events then were almost exclusively run to no-stop rules. If you were allowed to momentarily stop and balance in the 1970s, you were riding under different rules to the convention at the time.
There are reasons for using a stopping penalty for twinshock class nowadays.
Depending on the nature of the sections, a bike with poor clutch action by nature of it's design may be disadvantaged by allowing stopping. If the organisers are trying to attract riders, it is useful to make the playing field more level by reducing the advantage gained by having good clutch action.
To replicate the feel of the events of the time the bikes were made, orgainsers sometimes like to use the same rules as those used at time.
Yes it can be tricky and sometimes quite amusing riding to the no-stop rules after years of stopping and balancing. We have one (twinshock and classic bikes only) event a year that runs to no-stop rules and that is one of the reasons it is such fun to ride.
And yes lots of us ride twinshock bikes in modern bike classes (with great satisfaction too)
-
I have no experience with the Castrol 747 but do know that if you use Castor oil (Castrol R40) as the pre-mix oil in your two-stroke trials bike, the carbon formed on the piston crown and in the head will form very quickly and be extremely hard. To remove it will require emery tape/grinder rather than the usual wiping with a 3M scouring pad that removes the carbon formed when using modern oils.
Another consideration is that switching from one type of two-stroke premix oil to another without washing out the motor internals can cause accellerated wear rates until all the old oil has worked its way out of the engine.
The concentration of Castor oil used as an upper cylinder lube or odour agent in the fuel for a 4 stroke should be kept much lower than what you would use in two stroke premix - mainly to avoid causing carbon buildup in the exhaust ports and valve/s.
-
I thought this might be the right time to show a photo illustrating how popular Cota 348s are in our local trials club. Photo taken before a club trial October 2007.
-
Those fork caps are standard on some model Cota 348s. I have 3 sets of 348 forks and thay all have those caps but I have also seen 348s with plain fork caps.
It was a popular thing to do at the time. It provides another way to adjust the front suspension. There is a drawback though that increasing the pressure inside also increases fork seal drag.
-
Here's the other side of DabDab's 348 brochure. Sorry if its upside down or sideways - remember it was uploaded in the Southern hemisphere!!
-
These are scans of a 348 brochure I am posting on behalf of DabDab. They are in pdf format so I'm not sure they will display properly.
-
1 The brand/size that you personally find easiest to ride. For me it would be a toss up between Scorpa SY250 and Beta Rev3 250.
2 It wouldn't be a factor because the all the brands are well supported by their distributors here.
-
Stripping paint from fibreglass tanks is easy if you use an electric heat gun to heat the paint and then scrape it off with a paint scraper.
I've successfully done fibreglass Spanish trials bike fuel tanks this way. The latest was an OSSA MAR tank that had three layers of paint and lots of spray putty.
Warnings:
Make sure you have removed all the fuel fumes before you use the heat gun
Don't overheat the fibreglass (or it may catch on fire). Just heat the paint surface to about 50 degrees C - about as hot as you can stand to touch with bare hands.
-
The head on the bike in the photo from the France Trial Classic website looks like a DT175 head.
-
Clark Maunfacturing in the USA make high quality plastic tanks for old MX and mini MX bikes. Some of them would fit the KT but the look is nowhere near as sleek as a steel KT tank.
|
|