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Hi Dave Norcott has them on his web site www.classicspeedwayandgrasstrack.com, what do you have Trials or Grasstracker? Regards OXBOY

Well I've got to say im surprised, i posted a request for info on the Elstar trial bike a while ago, over 700 views but not a thing, usually the combined knowledge of the forum can come up with something. Thers a good article about the bike on the BSA Otter site if anyones interested, and if you have one of these bikes or know anything about them I'd be very intrested in hearing from you

Is there anyone out there who has an Elstar Trials or knows someone who has, pictures, sales info etc, info on these are hard to find, Don Morleys book and the "Otter" web site are the only source's i have found, any help would be greatfully received

Hi Sorry a bit late to this forum, but i can confirm that your frame is definitely not a Rex Piles RamYam, i was lucky to pick one of his bike a while ago, and as said before there is a lot of confusion about them, so i decided to try and contact the man himself. After a searching the interweb i managed to find him, and he gave much info about his bikes, and no he did not make any twinshocks only monos, and only 22 of those. As said yours is a Miller frame, i also went down the same route as you with Miller, and he was less than helpful, and said that he had never heard of RamYams Hope this helps OXBOY

Hi I am in the process of rebuilding two MARS a standard 71 and a Gollner, ive used Steve Sell for parts and a bottom end rebuild, and always found his work and parts to be spot on, he does admit it can take him a while to answer calls, its not his main business and has to fit it in around work, Stick with it, Steve has a vast knowledge and huge range of spares, and im sure he will be able to help you out, if all else fails he should be at Telford later this month Regards OXBOY

Hi Ive had a couple of Whitehawk tanks resprayed with twin pack in Post Office Red, I think this was the original colour used, but if its not, its a good match, sorry don't know the RAL number, hope this helps

Have a look at the Shedworks site they do new covers in white or yellow and supply new decals

Hi Ben Give Ian Perberdy a call on 07786911425, he also has a web site called Yamoto, he has done work for me and I can recommend him OXBOY

Hi John Have a look at Tank Care Products, ive used it on a Whitehawk tank, and seems to work OK, but time will tell OXBOY

Hi I have just had a look at the forum, just a couple of points, Sammy Miller did not sell Whitehawks, Mick Whitlock produced and marketed his own bikes, the tanks on Whitehawks were fibreglass, with a "W" embosed on the left hand side that covered the air box, the tank shown on your bike looks like a later Miller type If you need to see some pics search google images, there is a pic of a mini with a red tank leaning against a wooden wall, i know its a mini, it used to be my bike

Further to my previous post, Whitlock frames have been known to have porblems with cracking, i had a "mini" that had been repaird on the front down tubes where they meet the gusset, Whitlock also made the frame for the Suzuki Beamish this to suffers from cracking around the headstock As for numbers made, Whitlock did not number his frames, so there is some debate how many he made,i think there are more than six, the mini was made as the next step up from the ty80 and designed for youth riders who found the full size bike to big. Whitlock made 4 models of Whitehawk the 80 (white tank), mini 175 (blue tank).standard 175 (red tank), and a 200 (white tank) all the frames were brazed

Its a Mick Whitlock frame, for a "mini Whitehawk" slightly smaller than the full sized Whitehawk, you can tell by the front down tubes that have a slight bend in them, the full size bikes had straight tubes, the frame is made from Reynolds 531 tubing,

Hi Jez & Henry Forgot to mention theres a useful video on Utube on how to change the seal, it will help if you have not done this job before Bob

Hi Jez & Henry Yes you have water in the oil, most likely the water pump seal has gone, easy to fix, remove pump, fit new seal, be careful not to pinch the pump ( this happens if you push the seal too far in ), top up, change oil, happy days Regards Bob

Hi Everyone Its time to stop this nonsence, i am the the previous owner of the bike, obviously Mark has issues with the bike, which he is perfectly entilted to air, what i can not understand is why he had to drag Ians name into this, im sure that he is not happy to be associated with the negitive remarks about the bike, so to get strait for everyone who reads this forum. IAN PERBERDY HAS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BIKE, HE HAS DONE NO MECHANICAL WORK, OR SUPPLIED ANY PARTS FOR IT, IN FACT HE HAD NEVER SEEN THE BIKE UNTIL THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE SHOW, HE PUT THE BIKE ON HIS STAND AS A PERSONAL FAVOUR TO ME I consider Ian as one of the nice guys in trials, his work and parts are excellent, and i would reccomend him to anybody who wants a first class job. Mark if want to take up any of the issues you have with the bike, you can do so through this forum or contact via messages. OXBOY

Hi Dan, You will not find a frame number Mick Whitlock did not number any of the Whitehawk frames Regards OXBOY

Further to the above, have a look on Ebay at item no 220692013322 OXBOY

Hi Old Bones Thanks for the reply, ill give Ray a call to see whats involved and the cost Regards Bob

Hi Twinshock Thanks for the reply, one slightly negative, one very positive, ill wait and see if anyone else has any comments before i part with any cash Thanks again Bob

Hi to all the Tiger Cub boys Im hoping that somone can give me some feedback on the stator kit from Elextrexworld, i am just about to start a Cub rebuild and have been looking at stator kits PVL etc, but this one does away with the machining needed to fit the others, has anyone fitted one, and how did it perform, any help or advice would be great Regards Bob

Hi Sam I am in the final stages of a Whitehawk rebuild, info on Whitehawks is very thin on the ground, Mick Whitlock did not number his frames and so there is some debate about how many were built, as for the swinging arm it did not have dust caps fitted, or a chain slider, the swinging arm bushes are from a Land Rover, hope this helps Regards OXBOY

Hi Jenny Contact Gordon Farleys they sell the spacers, sprockets and circlips you need, if you are replacing the sprocket you will have to put the spacer on the inside of the sprocket, this takes up any lateral movement on the drive shaft splines, the outside circlip should be a tight fit If there is any play on the drive shaft it will wear the drive shaft splines, and you will end up needing a new drive shaft, very exspensive and hard to find, hope this helps Regards Bob