the artist formerly known as ish

Another trick more commonly known and used on the indoors, is coke, spill some on a dry slippery surface and as it dries up, the sugar becomes tacky, and gives a lot more grip, obviously this doesn't work outdoors.

Vinnie/Lane, it's true!! put some on an old penny and leave it over night, the stuff would bring the dirt off my tykes neck. We eat the stuff, just think what your guts must look like Try it Lane, use an old tire so there is nothing to loose and do it on news paper in the garage so the wife doesn't twilt thi lug, and see what the compound of the tire feels like in the morning. Then you tell me if it works or not.

So would I, get rid of all this grey hair

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Front and rear fenders on bikes today are no more than a cosmetic, the front won't keep mud out of your radiator unless you fit a mud flap, and the rear won't keep it off your back, the airbox, carb, shock mount and any other item they can cram in that space is done by necessity, a little more room would make them more user friendly. It wouldn't fly if one company wanted to make a more functional machine, because looks are more important to most, if the FIM ruled that the bikes had to have a minimum seat height and fuel capacity, this would put the world champ riders on those machine and what is good for the goose. Same debate a year or two back about going fourstoke, most could only see the negative, but the bikes in the first year are proving they are up to the task. I think the point here is! if you could have a bike with a seat and better fuel capacity, that performed on a parr with todays bikes, how many would take that option.

Kinell's boots come with hydraulic oil all ready installed

Most riders seemed pleased with the sections, and PNTA had hit just the right level of difficulty. Course was two loop 25 mile 25 sections/loop. Martin Lampkin did what he was supposed to do, ride like a champion. Marland Whaley turned 18 and rode with the three best riders in the world , beating two of them. Martin Lampkin at the awards banquet. "This was one of the best rounds this year, I have always been fond of the Spanish round, but I think this was very close to equaling it. I hope you get another event very soon." Yrjo Vesterinen. "The US rounds get better each year. Rhode Island had some sections that riders had to start out paddling from the beginning and a high winning score. Here you had chance for a clean at every section." Mick Andrews. "We need more trials like this, in the middle. Not extremely difficult, and not too easy, we used to teach you and now we are coming over and learning from you." Honda teamster Joe Guglielmelli brought along a truck load of his Walla Walla sweet onions. His titanium thumper was squeezed in the back somewhere. Quite a good selection of photo's mostly in streams, looking at the pictures you can't tell how steep the hill is, but I have ridden up Goldbar many times, how anyone could compare a world round section from then with a section today, and even begin to think it was anything close, needs to have a good look again.

Plugged pilot jet often causes hard starting on the sherco, simple test, try giving it a little choke to start it when the bike is warmed up, if she starts better, then clean carb and blow the jets out well.

What I picked up on in my very first SSDT, was some nice fellow had been round in the middle of the night and posted little blue signs that said "END OF HILL" well to my amazement they did it every day on every group of sections, well I thought you would have to be a bit slow in't head leaving the group until you saw that sign. But there was this one chap,

Not a bad debate, both views have valid points, seat and 1 liter larger fuel capacity could be achieved by razing the profile mid section of the bike by only a couple of inches. Try riding a stock trialer 500 plus mile in one week, the seat and the knowledge that your not going to run out of fuel before the next gas check is bloody nice. Now I can see why Sendero wants a little id

He he, tha's certainly extraordinary

This is a topic on our club site at the moment. This year 15 ORV clubs will apply for events down the burn only 13 will be accepted. Last year 23 events were run and the year before 25 events. Last year our little club was allowed to run 5 trials events, when other off road clubs could get one or no event, we hope the case will be the same this year. Reasons our club could fly under the radar and do this when the bigger motorcycle/fourwheel clubs are only allowed one or no events, is, our club is small, we police ourselves, very low impact, small group that has shown over the years they will leave the area they use clean and tidy after use. If trials attracted greater numbers and people like MX/Enduro, our opportunities to ride in areas like this would probably be the same as theirs also. This is an email from the ODF , proposals for less events this year Oregon Department of Forestry. Two primary goals of our recreation program are to minimize adverse impacts to natural resources such as water quality and to manage for a wide variety of uses while minimizing user conflict. Increasing public use is causing both increasing adverse resource impacts and increasing user conflicts. A well managed recreation program can mitigate these and it is time for us to take a close look at how we are managing our program, including what our priorities are and how to best direct our staff. This past year it has become increasingly evident that we need to retool the motorized recreation program on the Tillamook State Forest. The biggest indicator of this need is the number of seasonal trail closures we needed to do this winter. Our trail system is not in shape to handle the increased level of motorized recreation it is getting, both organized and non-organized. Trail maintenance should to be our top priority and staff time needs to be adjusted to adequately plan, implement and administer trail maintenance. To free up this needed staff time, we are proposing a number of significant changes to the Motorized Event Program for 2006. These changes include setting a calendar of available dates for events, reducing the total number of events to 13, establishing a simple drawing to allocate those dates and generally being more businesslike in how we administer the program. We have scheduled three meetings related to 2006 Motorized Events. January 30 – This meeting will start at 6:30PM at the ODF Forest Grove District office. We will present our proposal and have a discussion about it. While this is not a formal hearing, we want your comments and input before we finalize this year’s program. February 6 – This meeting will also start at 6:30PM at the ODF Forest Grove District office. This is planned to be the “Drawing Meeting”. Each club interested in hosting an event in 2006 needs have an official representative, preferably an officer, attend to participate and pick dates if successful. February 25 – The department will host an Event Permit Workshop starting at 9:00AM at the Forest Grove District office and running until about noon. This workshop is required for clubs that were successful in drawing an Event date. We realize we are later than usual preparing for the upcoming Event season. We are trying to hurry things along at this point but do not want to compromise process or participation. We will work with those who draw early Event dates on permit timelines. Please join us on January 30 to discuss the 2006 Motorized Event Program. If you have questions or comments before then, email us or give us a call. Or you can contact Kelly Foster at 503-359-7463, kfoster@odf.state.or.us. Thank you.

And the odd two minute wonder, who will discover that trials isn't as easy as it looks, and goes back to riding the four wheeler round the parking lot.

I'll agree with that Lane, best post I have seen you post.

One area we are working on to speed trials up in our club, used in the Summer at the club Wednesday night series, is the observer writes the score on a section score sheet rather than punch the score on a card. Each rider has their riding number on the number plate, the observer can sit at any vantage point in the section and record the score without moving. This system is the norm in the UK, no need for two people to man a section in club type events. At the club weekend events we run group check or split the event into morning and afternoon, both ways take longer and more man power than the observer with pencil. The Wednesday night series takes half the time and is a more popular system with both the riders and observers, but!! still finding people to man sections on a weekend is next to impossible. Our club should start using the pencil and paper for weekend events if for no other reason than to save time and energy for the observer. Because clubs over here are more isolated and riding many different club events in a short period of time isn't a common practice, it would be easy to give riders a perminent riding number for the season based on their standings in the club from the prior season, this also could give more incentive to move higher up the number board, as it's on the front of your bike were you stand in the club rankings.

So Lane, reading the Dirt bike mag from November 76, paying attention to the report of the Wagner cup written by you good bud Len Weed. Few mentions about you, [Q] Lane Leavitt took ninth, was third best American, and won the best pants award, runner up was Mick Andrews with his pattern sport trousers and John Metcalf in solid purple.] [Q] Lane Leavitt reported that Birkett and Andrews tried to put the "turkey bite" on him. Saying things like: ho, I'm so tired and it's only the sixth section. And pointing out a line as the line and then riding another one] Sounds like you were a whiny bugger back then also : rolleyes: Another blurb that made me laugh a bit about the lean mean Leavitt machine of the 70's [Q] With little more than a year's riding experience, Larry Gurley has already challenged the Leavitt/Darrow level in northern California trials aboard a stock Suzuki ] This is words scribed by your own pal Lane, what sort of mate would take pi22 like that ? Anyway time to let you know why Mart could find better grip up the slippery creeks when you lads were struggling, and went on to win that event, he pulled a fast one on you lads. He stumbled across sticky tires by accident before there were sticky tires, Mart was sponsored by Hammonds sauce, one day after a practice session in the beck hole behind the workshop,I has a nipper and nowt to do, used to watch him, anyway he stopped for a bit of something to eat, pork pie from Bottomly's just down road, pies from the Lion were rubbish, that's if you could catch em, anyway he was slapping bottom of the sauce bottle and a big dollop shot out all over his new tire that was ligged against bench, well thinking nowt of it, he washed his bike and went Lion for a gill. Next day when he went to get the new tire to fit it for the weekends trial he said "look young ish, that bloody stuff buggerd mi tyre/tire", it had eaten away at the rubber over night and made it like gum. Being a tight bugger he painted the rest of the tire in the stuff, and left it for a day, washed it all off and used it to practice with, well the thing gripped like you to Debbie's trophies, it would stick like sh.t to a blanket in slippery wet sections, and as he got the sauce for nowt he started using painting on his event tires, dry rock sections knackered the tire up in no time in fact it was worse, but on the slick stuff it was the dogs. Can't get the stuff today, but the A1 steak sauce works just as good, don't take my word for it, get an old tire and try it, only cost a $ or two, do you own test, easiest 20 points you'll ever save in a wet trial, if you had the same grip has he in the Goldbar Wagner cup, I think you could of been a lot closer. I was only a nipper at the time, and saw it with my own eyes, I have never heard anyone ever mention it, so I don't think anyone but Mart and I knew, unless he doses Doug's tires with the stuff, I did notice they wrapped Doug's tires in there own personal blankets at the Duluth world round.

How many people in the US would say Queues. No way can you compare the US trials scene to the English. I have done both for many years and both have there good points, and the not so good points. Bottom line, it's still a fun great sport to be involved with.

Having ridden one and watched the Sherco go up muddy sections I disagree with the grip thing...I would hate to own one where there's lots of muddy cambers...far too sharp for my liking <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Find grip better than any modern bike I have ridden, but I have also seen some riders who couldn't find grip on the M1.

No overheating problems at all JM, but I think the radiator cover fin profile is too flat, not allowing good air flow, I cut out some of the plastic fins to improve air flow. Allowing the piston to go after TDC, allows you to kick it over with little effort. It has been suggested that a manual valve lifter would be the best setup for the 3.2, as it is only needed to purge the system in an hot stall or spitback. I may be doing everything wrong, but I seem to have better results with the bike than most.

Hi JM. My personal experience with the Sherco 3.2 has been a fairly good one. I received the bike mid June after some of the early teething problems had been sorted, the wiring short to ground on a sharp engine casting, and a better valve lapping, these improvements were personally told to me by Mr. Paxau, at the US world round, he used the bike to follow the Sherco team round in that event. I has everyone else found the bike very temperamental on starting, and I think the main complaint by all who got the bikes, however I got used to the starting procedure and how to best start it hot or cold. Only change I have made from stock other than personal position of bars and levers, is I removed the auto valve lifter, went a couple of sizes leaner on the main, and added more tube to the oil breather pipe, so if any was pushed out it didn't go all over the engine and smoke. My Starting procedure when cold, put choke on, turn air screw in two turns, rock bike in gear with clutch in to break free the clutch plates, with no throttle I push the kick start f through a few times, then push it until at TDC, let it go past TDC until my boot touches the foot peg, then let the kick start come back up to the top and give it one good kick, she usually fires but doesn't start, at this time I take the choke off and doing the same push past TDC method she will start, after starting I let it idle fast until it is warm before reducing the idle down with the air mixture screw. Starting hot I use the same push past TDC until my foot touches the peg, let the kicksart return and one good kick starts the bike. If I stall or get a spitback, then I open the throttle full and kick over a couple of times to clear the engine out, then with no throttle start as normal. I really love riding the bike and will replace with the 06 when available, my position in the results for the year, I have moved up one place in the Expert class, conditions and area we ride in suit the bike. I have put many hours on this machine with only replacing the oil, no mechanical parts needed so far, I think it is twenty one or two actual competitions I have ridden on it since June and not once has the bike failed to start or been unable to finish an event. Very easy to ride with good balance excellent traction, clutch feel, suspension, riding position, same as the two stroke models, weight difference not noticeable in most conditions. I find I can ride most sections in first gear, but the bike has enough power to pull any gear. I think Sherco rushed a little getting the bike out for the 05 SSDT, this proved to be a bad introduction, and in truth the bike needed more testing before being released, easy to say with hind sight. What would I change on the bike!! I think sherco have covered most of the areas in the 06 model, it did need more room for removing the valve cover for maintenance, I would also like a better tank seat unit with a least a third more fuel capacity, and the small fuel tank as used now as the option for those who only ride in small areas. I think the trend of four stroke bikes in trials will in grow 06, Scorpa soon to be on the market with a 250 will also increase sales. It was only a short time ago people were saying it couldn't be done, the bikes would consume all there own oil, and they couldn't make a competitive water cooled 4 stroke, after only one year I think they are doing well. I am happy with my fourstroke so far, and I know they will improve each model year. A question you should ask again this time next year JM. Ishy.

I am, why take the risk, the top four in the series will end the series being the top four. I think Doug needs to cruise the indoors, wave at the fans, run over start cards and kinell, most of the section, save body and bike for the proper trials. Can't win outdoor rounds if your in a body cast.

Going on comments by posters, it sounds like Raga was well in control until the last part of the event, and Bou, who won the event on the night was totally on the edge, taking spectacular, but big risks. Even if he does ride all the events I don't think he will take Raga's indoor title this year, but it would make the series more exciting for the spectator. Not much mention of Fajardo.

Good point Original, is a rider a persons favorite because of thier riding ability, or does it just come down to the color of bike.

fire proof cage ? not seen one of those on the sherco, nor has the parts book, could you explain what your talking about ?

In the grip department having ridden both the 2.9 and the 3.2 a lot, stacks more grip on the fourstroke. Not sure on the hard hitting, I found the opposite, the power rolls on with smooth linear feel. Clutch, engagement, common on many bikes, but you had the little 125f Scorpa, it was on off like a light switch from stock, knurled plates and easier pull cable made it smooth, sherco, if they start grabbing, the cure is clean and rough the steel plates up with emery paper so they carry more oil up, looks like the Mont is just the same type of deal. One thing I have noticed about the Mont 4rt, now they have a year behind them and people see what the bike is like, I think interest and sales are growing fast. For club riders, in my opinion the mellow mapped form is the way to go, the bike become a pleasure in mud, and creeks, but for the rider who likes it fast for big dry rock type section, they have that option. Did I say that right Doug will you pay me now or shall I collect it later