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Gauss Gauss, brilliant! Wish I had thought of that! PM system says you cannot accept mail. Intentional, or full mailbox?

So nothing has changed? Assume you mean Dex 6, not Dex 11? Might try some D6 before spunking on elf.

My son runs elf. I run dex xi. Go figure.

Hi all, Bought a 2016 300rr and the dealer put 10w40 tranny oil in it. Not Elf. Took for a practice. Felt fine until hot-hot and then refused to find any gear except the one it was in, had to turn off or wait until cool. Prefer not a light-switch clutch. What was the decision after the past decade since people chatting GRO?

I like the Mecatecno but they do not (as best I can see) do much marketing. I have only ever seen one - the one at SW Trials and it was there for a very long time. It is a big leap of faith to buy something at the top end of prices without a test ride and when you do not know anyone that has one. They don't have a demo fleet with the importer like EM. That was what I meant by not cutting it. I am sure the bike is a good bit of kit.

The market has changed big time - you are right. Was the Mechatecno the SW Trials one? It was a couple of years old IIRC but unused. People are still buying bikes and are buying new bikes but I think the cheaper stuff was massively overpriced for a while and some sellers still kite flying.

https://www.clasicasdiaz.com/tienda/en/porta-numeros-and-handlebar-protector/1674-handlebar-protector-ossa.html https://mmgracingstore.com/en/motorcycle-accessories-and-handlebars/107693-handlebar-pad-ossa.html that's just two I saw when I googled it with that pic...........

Curious on your definition of not cutting it. They are egregiously expensive.

In the UK cheap second hand ICE bikes are not selling , the prices are dropping by hundreds and still no sale , Adam Raga dumped by TRS , a Mechatecno on Ebay dropped from 9,000.00 to 5,500.00 and still no sale after months. Sherco makes a budget ICE model for the market. Personally I do not see any room for any type of trials bike in the market certainly not something that costs 10,000 just to faff about on a Sunday afternoon.

Hi, does anyone have one of these bar pads they will sell

I think there is room in the market for another electric as well as EM. Mechatecno are not cutting it (much as I like their bike). I thought Gasgas might have a model out by now but the parent company's financial problems probably explain why they have not.

Maybe they need to consider e-jotagas for a resurrection. With the offset shock it seems they'd have better options for mass distribution than a conventional shock. That's where my interest originally arose.

I had a nice conversation with Clay at Jotagas of America this morning. Unfortunately, Jotagas was killed off by COVID-19 which resulted in the factory's inability to source parts. Although the brand's owner is still enthusiastic, the likelihood of a resurrection is small in Clay's estimation. The Jotagas of America website remains mostly due to inertia.

Hi I’ve just bought a 2016 combat 300 that won’t currently start (bought with an intermittent starting issue). What does the powerbox part number V-0533 do within the ignition system? thanks

Hi all .. I've managed to almost resolve the clutch issues.. but I've noticed the back cog for the kickstart gear ⚙️ is very damaged And no longer meshing looks like the circlip was never replaced 🤦‍♂️...how do I get it out? It's behind the gear selector finger ! Do I have to remove the whole gear selector shaft or is there an easier way..

Oh, OK just read your link, thanks. Looks do-able but there are probably a lot of parameters that I would need from motor mfgr. Due to the lack of any serious ramp programming on this Alltrax golf cart controller I used here, I made an audio taper (log) potbox so you have great slow precision on an otherwise sketchy throttle and you get the big splat energy when you wick it open. Almost as good as a clutch overall but way easier to ride IMHO for medium skill level riders (me). Speed (voltage) mode does not have that time lag that a torque (current) mode has so response is instant. And I 'll certainly dig deeper into your experiments. Thanks for all that .

Yes. Generic controllers are available, but lack some of EM's features. https://www.electricmotiontech.com/home/em-5-7/sx-controller-experiments

Is it likely that the controller is available direct from siliXcon unprogrammed? Also, I should add that the Perm/ Alltrax package I used, while pretty crude by today's standards, does not use a feedback device although a brushless could emulate that with its feed back loop I suppose. I'm not a EE but have dabbled with EV controls forever.

Maybe, maybe not. EM uses custom siliXcon firmware, and the speed loop routine may have been removed to make space for other code. https://docs.silixcon.com/docs/fw/modules/esc/driver/command/driver_pid_modes

Just curious if this is possible, within reason. I have an old relationship with Phillipe at EM from 2 decades ago and am trying to rekindle that relationship for both humanitarian and access reasons.

All of EM's siliXcon controllers are password locked, so only torque mode is possible. Back when we first got the 5.7, I experimented with the Kelly controller's "balanced mode" (somehow incorporates both torque and speed modes). I found it most unintuitive compared with ICE trials bikes, so I did not bother to try speed mode. See: https://www.electricmotiontech.com/home/em-5-7/5-7-controller

I'm curious about some of the programming used on these bikes. I just got a 2024 pure sport with diaphragm clutch and the 3 mode settings. But I'm used to a bike I built and posted here years ago that uses a Perm brushed motor and an Alltrax 48V 400 amp controller. I am comparing the EM throttle response and general feel to my old 'Digit' I built. The Digit, because its a brushed motor, is by nature always in speed mode, so throttle command is proportional to the motor rpm as opposed to most brushless motors that typically (the EM) operate in torque mode where the throttle command is proportional to the current. My Digit does not have a clutch but throttle response is very crisp and both splats and wheelies are very predictable and easy to control. The EM however feels really mushy response-wise and its harder for me to control since I'm used to speed mode modulation. Has anyone programmed an EM to operate in speed mode? I also build street and road race electric bikes and have done so for many years (I'm old). On street bikes, torque mode is more intuitive but for off road use and on my EM, I think that speed mode would be better. Anyone know what I'm babbling about?

Hey I just got a 2024 Sport as well and am totally digging it, learning to use a clutch. The diaphragm clutch is awesome.