None of the top boys asked for a 5 in St David's last year - if anything they wanted it harder ???
Ok All lost marks and wanted it harder ! "all my long years trialing will never understand that " loose marks your NOT good enough to clean that section so the section was more than hard enough for you .!
GREAT as we are talking about BTC "BTC " the best in the country stand out but it has had to turn into a normal trial multi course to keep running due to the lack of entry (the point of the forum) but i still can not see what the point of sections so hard the top boys taking 5s or3s on them
Absolutely not at BTC and WTC bothe series try to maintain severity so people at the top lose marks.
so with that thinking set the trial for 1 man /woman and forget about the rest of the entry
10 hours ago, nigel dabster said:
You dont if the level is set correctly
so your saying the level is not set correctly due to having the second course ?
10 hours ago, nigel dabster said:
Because the severity is set for that level of rider, or that type of rider Ross Danby and Sam Haslam for instance.
have these riders both rode BTC /elite riders ?
10 hours ago, nigel dabster said:
You are making a leap from being able to ride something hard to not being interested in watching it. As illustrated above thats just not logical. BTC at the rounds Ive been to recently a fair few spectators. Its clearly not for everyone but whats the alternative
well the alternative is not bother to go and watch which seems to be the case ,
10 hours ago, nigel dabster said:
Were not discussing TV are we, that was an analogy.
did I bring TV up no I DID NOT !
As for the top riders wanting hard sections to be pushed to there limit for the good and benefit of the sport ? I feel its more good and benefit to there pocket wage/sponsorship as hard sections few can ride keep there advantage going
Decreasing the severity will not increase overall participation by one rider afaik, who would jump up from the second route and would the top WTC lads just not bother with the BTC that was dead easy?
So decreasing severity will not increase participation ? so why have we had to do we do it at club level with all the courses ? well some of these riders are happy to go and ride a national & as you point out whos going to jump up from the second route well why bother to run the second route then ? ,If these are the "elite riders" they will win no matter what hard or easy what is the point of the sport getting to the point were 99.99% do not even relate to it any more if you want to see them do all the tricks go to the circus or watch them on saturday night prime tv BGT !
4 minutes ago, jimmyl said:
Acting and drama can survive without Hollywood superstars but do you want to watch the am dram pantomime on a Saturday night prime tv ??
well i would say yes why not i would give it a go might be better than whats on TV NOW bit like the BTC & WTC wont know till you give it a try
After reading replies I stand corrected about easing the BRITISH TRIALS CHAMPIONSHIP course,as pointed out " its the blue ribbon of trials, the riders need pushing to there limit , we DO have national trials to get riders to a level to ride BTC We need hard events were the elite riders in the country get to show there skills off to joe public and these riders need pushing if there going to make it on the world stage "!. SO by all means keep the British Trials Championship Hard for a elite group of 6 or so riders im sure its a winning formula ! as its working so well at WTC what can go wrong . Time to bust some peoples bubble trials can survive without the elite riders
British championship what a joke multi class/multi course "quick fix" NEVER work because the jump between the courses is far to much ( you can see this at club trials) with sections very few can ride there never will be a big entry for it ,so when 6 riders YES six dont turn up it turns into a farce with 1 rider so even without the covid excuse there would only been 7 so do these 7 really need there own course why not ease the sections drop them all on i 1 course and get a true trials champion what have you got to lose as the top class at btc can not go on like this
I suppose it could be the fan motor drawing excessive current ?
You could either borrow another fan or just park a bike next to yours and wire the slave fan into your loom and see if your bike still dies with the slave fan... obviously your fan won’t be working so don’t run the bike for too long!
imho why i said fan drawing excessive current as montesa 4rt needs lights to be switched off to start /and a fan relay to cut fan off +3 kicks for starting that tells me there is no spare current in the system --- as the bike starts cold that says everything is working ! the only thing that then gets added to that system is the the FAN as the fan cuts in and out the fan motor gets hot ,drawing excessive current to turn until it draws too much current and cuts the bike out . Why not the fuel pump drawing to much current ? well the bike would cut out when the fan cuts in for the very first time- ---due to the fuel pump running constantly ,the highest current pull from the fuel pump is at start up to get the pump to turn thus the need for lights off and fan relay +the 3 kicks to charge the system fully up .
Yes i can Not get it to 1800, at 1500 it sounds like it’s going to ride off on its own but then it cuts out hence it must be wrong!
what maps are on the bike ? is all the restricts removed ?how is the bike running before cutting out black smoke miss fire ? if bike running good and only cuts out and bad to start when hot i think the problem is the cooling fan, starting to seize will turn /work but drawing to much current away from fuel pump also look at fan relay,i find it very strange the ecu will not allow you to set the correct tick over as its only a air valve screw
Am I the only one who has noticed the contradiction? The ACU considers trials to be sufficiently safe that the rules don't require any minimum standard for first aid and ambulance cover. Yet now they stop us riding in case someone gets hurt. It's hardly surprising of course as the whole sorry sage throughout the country (and most other countries it would seem) has been a mixture of irrational panic, do-as-I-say-and-not-as-I-do, and a total lack of joined-up thinking.
A while ago you started a topic wanting first aid at trials and your still trying, So as someone that needed it = ambulance came could not get to me so mountain rescue too a air ambulance So at this present time all that would put a strain on the system so a good move stop any chance of it being needed ! ? As for your minimum standard tell us what is needed wheeled or air ambulance and mountain rescue all on stand by ?( because that was what was needed) Who picks that bill up for that service having them sitting at a trial all day on the off chance and is there enough of them to cover all trials over a weekend ? try to get that cost put on the entry fee ! Or do we keep the system as it is now that works we call them when they are needed Do you require first aid cover every time you get on your bike on the drive or out at practice so why at trials ?
I see that outdoor 'non contact sports' may go head and resume later this month, so that leads us onto the sport we enjoy
Apart from section queues, I think some good measure of social distancing, can be achieved and Club and Centre Trials
Nationals and bigger events, like Scott and SSDT with large amounts of Spectators may be more tricky
Just before lock down I was at the Cleveland National and they had sectioned off and roped off sections, so spectators and riders were 'distanced'
Punch cards were abandoned, in favour of marker boards by Observers and 2 Observers per section (not necessary at a Club trial)
Practice grounds - I see our local one is reopening tomorrow and working on a permit system, with just 2 vehicles per day there
Trials are going to be different for a while and section queuing needs addressing for sure, especially at smaller venues, with large number of sections on a smaller land area
And this is why we have the ACU governing body to sort this ! but A good start would be all events turn into pre enter NO ENTRYS ON DAY =helps with parking and along with acu membership we get a race number as in scotland ?(goes on bike & observes boards done to suite ) riders wear color bib for which course there on as in ireland = no queues around the secretarys car should work well at club center level, nationals? different format you get you number sent to you. As for section queues tape from begins cards out 6ft say 1rider /bike in there at a time riders own responsibility for distancing along with walking sections , .The only problem with all this is riders are going to have to get there act together
Our lass will not observe asked her why ? This is why -- she gets to a 3+ in1 section then has to figure out all the splits in the flags were the section goes , then has to try to make out a felt tip pen cross on the number to see which course there on, when shes done all this then put in the position to make the hard decision on was it a stop or not as the sections are marked out to tight and then having to wait for the expert course riders to come round a lap after everyone else has finished ! Thats why theres 1 less observer .
hi not a wind up ! check flywheel magnets --- had bikes run ok but higher revs no chance what happens its a weak magnet that do not but out enough current to send the cdi into advance
All i do is hold a small screw driver to the inside of fly wheel feel it getting pulled by magnets as you move around the inside of the flywheel with luck you will feel a weak one and theres the problem hope this helps
. The future of trials UK ? could be very good a fresh start -- look at the state of trials add another course and it will fix everything ! , Is this the perfect time start from scratch again ? 1 course a grading system with club trials easy / center bit harder / national lot harder just like the old days it worked and worked very well it went from that to the farce we got now multi class multi course no grading ! so as it will be a fresh start what have we got to lose to give it a try ? how trials got to the state its in now ? some riders pushing the rules to the limit but with not bringing them riders back into line with the rules but change the rules to the them riders and welcome to state of modern trials ! Wonder were trials would be now if Mr Tarris was given a 5 when he started stopping & hopping
Did I even say I am going anywhere to practice? Don't be a dick - stop jumping to conclusions.
did i say you or did i just use your statement you made ? why the acu said dont practice all i did was give a reasons why not to practice as the saying goes if the the cap fits ! if it makes someone think and stops them about going practice then good its done what it was meant to do sooner this is sorted the sooner we all get to go play and i hope all trials people make it through stay safe
The ACU considers trials sufficiently safe that they don’t mandate any medical cover for trials. But then tell us not to practice because we will be putting pressure on the NHS. Meanwhile walkers are stepping off pavements into the road willy-billy to maintain their 2m separation.
1 dont practice on your own
2 you feel safe to practice without medical cover but you need it for trials ?
3 some were to practice at your house whats the problem BUT if not how & were are you going to go practice ?
4 need 2m separation whos going to pick a bike off you or catch you ? see 1
just a thought as the NHS is under pressure at the moment maybe the ACU thinks why give them more problems to sort they may also think dicks will go and practice on there own so thus saving theses dicks from them selves . Lets think what maybe be need for a practice crash and were we practice =ambulance/air ambulance +medics ,even mountain rescue to get you to ambulance ,then trip to hospital might have to get a bed OR worse case scenario bike lands on you your stuck under it no one there to help your found in "x time" just coz you being a dick DONT BE LIKE A DICK STAY AT HOME
Hi does anyone know who makes the s3 and other decals you find on wear areas of the bike i.e. frame, tank etc where it has a fine dimple resistant/wear resistant effect which never look old even when worn. I have looked every where for vinyl like this but can only seem to find carbon effect or the woven type???
I am eager to make decals for projects and this type of decal would be perfect!!
Many Thanks for any suggestions/help.
hi think what you mean is aqua anti slip tape i use this and find it very good
The poofs down at Taunton cancelled their trial for this week {15/3/20) because of VD, but Stroud are made of sterner stuff and theirs is going ahead today.
WOW what a real grown up adult response well richard head or can i call you DICK ! Its up to clubs / volunteers to decide if they run a trial or not and if they decided not to run a trial for what ever reason instead of name calling respect there decision .Tell you what DICK why dont you start your own club then you can run it as you see fit and it will all be perfect ! but then you,ll be the one that will have to make a decision that someone dose not like
first off im NOT a dealer I have never even had a ride on a trs but been fixing trials bikes 40+years
Warranty on a competition bike ? dont matter what make . How many bikes ever go back to a dealer not for repair but to get serviced or checked over but riders expect to get full warranty back up ., This case with the TRS you have not gave any time line to it but TRS have seemed to have done all they can as for the corrosion thats a lack of maintenance as the bike is a competition bike they do need to be looked after and maintained by the owner as the bikes live there life in mud and water
You state the bike came back and was running perfect then another fault appears so i can not see how or why the dealer or TRS are at fault here they have doing all they can they can not fix it till it fails
All achievable with lower cc 2t, and you always have the problem of image which is often more important to children?
Without a doubt a cheap 4t has advantages but this aint that cheap?
think your right about price but the main problem is i see on this site is riders that ride trials (competition) and others that ride trails.(play ) so who and what is it amend at,
Looks the part . The biggest problem in the UK for these bike is the ACU has un categorized and banned them from acu trials according to bsa otter site as they were planning to market them so pulled the plug on them
The rules are in the ACU book each member has access to, knowing them is down to the rider ! As for flags well thats why you walk a section see were the flags are again down to the rider , Strange how some riders manage to know the rules and manage to get the flags right. I really dont see how or what type of section markers will ever make to a riders progress At the end of day its all down to the rider to know were there going and the rules .Im sure the clubs would love a donation of FIM markers from you
I watched the video again and I think you're right. Looks to be the same amount of rotation as the white throttle tube. So I'd imagine the ramp is different so the slide opens more, earlier in the rotation. Either way, going to see if I can track down a Gold throttle tube to try out, gives me something to do while there's snow on the ground.
you can get the same effect using Araldite expoxy to build the throttle tube up then rub it down to get the cam you want
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Ok All lost marks and wanted it harder ! "all my long years trialing will never understand that " loose marks your NOT good enough to clean that section so the section was more than hard enough for you .!