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O my hero dabster ! moan and complain ok I am but maybe i dont have rose tinted glasses ! I have seen things objectively and dont like the way the sports "gone" its not for me any more !.

Well nigel i really dont give a toss if you think if thats a feeble excuse thats how i feel ! yes ive found clubs with a few good trials but over the years they have gone , SO find suitable trials get involved seen that done that ! So im lucky to live were i do well dont you think we get sick of same place same sections also? you come up to Richmound trials why for something different ? so why dont YOU change the trials in the midland center if theres a problem with them (as you and jimmyl tell me to do that ) But as always YOU know best !

well nigel since a flanged rim is NOT fitted with any rim tape and it solid rim ie no spoke holes thought YOU would know which we were talking about !

breagh , ive riden trials 46 yrs lived it loved it Stopped due to, Lack consistency to sections ive ridden trials expert section 1 trial the next trial the same section is clubman or you ride 50/50 and get given a section the experts are 5 or 3 you just dont know what your going to get so air on caution and get easy sections drop nothing or ride next course up but take the risk of a big off & hurt as its rocks here

you dont put it on the nipples it goes on the edge of the rim tape , read ssdt beta prep !

thought we were trying to find new rides for trials and play riders with trials bikes that dont ride trials might be a good start but you know best nigel

ok what ever ! trials is perfect no problems loads of new riders and entrys ,waist of a topic really

The problem is ,they can & do, at a practice area and NEVER go to trial in there life ! or like me stop doing trials and go to a practice area to ride instead. So has clubs become there own worst enemys opening practice areas ?

Sorry but I thought that was point of this was to find out whats going WRONG with trials !

Ross Noble on DAVE Trials on tv will this bring loads of new riders and entrys to trials . I dont think so as its been said theres alot more to do than ride trials AS rider of over 45 yrs ive lost interest in the sport i once loved , Clubs think old riders will go what ever so little or no thought is given to them its all about youth and new riders or experts with very little thought of sections for the older rider, sections range from easy move next course then to hard with drop off or jumps when was the last time you rode across a camber ? its all turn rev drop clutch go . Pay your entry fee you might get observers/or mark yourself lot of clubs dont even give trophys so pay ride with nothing to show for it, I can do that at practice so why go to a trial ? Remember trials of old club/center/national with a workable grading system ? what i see there is no change of severity between any of them now ,sort that riders might go to trials that will suit them best and be happy but as it is now riders do not have a clue what to expect from trial to trial

run a bead of seliflex NOT silicon sealent round beading tape and rim were it slips in to ,leave 24hrs to cure , hope helps/ job done

Strange BTC +WTC bad scoring by observers ? well heres a thought how about the ACU +FIM get a grip & supply the observers for THERE championships , then marking will be constant at each round , Dose some riders just lack any manners and have to argue any judgment ? gets back to a early post some riders need to read the RULES and understand them & what constitutes a dab or a fail

WOW great state the obvious !!!!! .Clubs have tried multi course ,multi classes, free entry to kids, training so were are they & how many trials riders that go to trials are NOT riding this weekend , some sports just die out

Glen 100% its catch 22 is the sensible approach be happy with numbers we have & spend more effort to keep them in the sport ? and do as we do now make new riders to the sport of trials welcome

buy a football kick it about dose that make you a foot ball player ! yes you can go "free ride" on a bike dose not make the rider a trials rider so whats it got to do with trials then? . Well the topic is about WERE ARE ALL THE ENTRIES???? why do people that dont want to do the sport or go to a trial have to contribute to the topic ? ,as i said in a early post, trials / trials clubs are not the cause for the lack of entries .AS for "listen to people that dont come to trials have to say rather than telling them they are just wrong" well what have the got to say about a sport they are not interested in , baffles me ! you either ride a trial or you dont the end

Well yes it dose Why go to a TRIAL which is ONLY a competitive sport then ? you what a non competitive environment WHY go a trial or do you expect to go to a trial and play/trail about on your bike thats not trials or have you found out as a hobby rider you have no were to go to ride (which could be more of the truth) Sorry but the nature of the sport and what it is about dose preclude it from being non competitive

why will more practice areas be better ? will that give riders some were to ride and NOT go to trials ,as we are trying to get entrys ? as for entry level motorcycles ?at what cost against 2nd hand bike is there a profit in it ? so if its cost why do you see some new riders out on factory replicas or new bikes ? DavidBaker summed the problem with new riders ( trials is a sport so why get a trials bike ) ? but trials is a sport

This not a wind up but i find 2 tea spoons work well good shape to leaver the spacer out "being curved" as were a screw driver being straight .Put grease on spacer before re fitting as said , this ive done with all my bikes not had a vertigo though !

WERE tell us then ! if they come to a trial find sections and the course to taxing & dont hack it you can not force them back .The nature of the sport is what it is , should they not prepare better for taking the sport up a little fitness training, trials school ? , never run but buy a set of trainers will they run a marathon ? so why with trials then ? Remember non of us get paid to give up time for train /help them ie trials school doing all that ,is there any guarantee they will come in to the sport or just go play. So we have to change the whole sport on a off chance we might get 2 or 3 more entrys per trial. Lets Look at trials &clubs its the same old faces that keep it running. do new members/ riders just turn up ride go home ?so is what happens when the old faces pack up who runs the club puts the trials on then ? best make the most of trials now

SO having to fill in a entry form at a trial is stopping people going to trial REALLY ? so a internet app will cure, lack of land ,observers keep kids in the sport and get new riders into the sport I dont think so .Time we say how it is this might upset some people Is the real problem not trials but people coming into the sport they need leading by the hand, find it hard not admit it & blame it on every thing but them self so the sport has to change just for them !.Someone said egos yes they go buy a factory replica the gear struggle to get to 1st section fall off then some old bloke on a twin shock shows them how to do it ! not very good for the ego Who said trials was easy it is character building , I wonder how many beginners have looked into going to a trials school or even went to a trial to watch before going to there first trial just a thought !

brakes are a sealed system so should not leak fluid out =air in not good , As for hanging a weight on it i can not see what that would achieve apart from putting seals under pressure = leak , May i suggest , the system needs a good bleed then go from there, also the type of pads you use will affect the braking effect also cheek the pads for wear as they wear uneven and look for lips on them

But the system works! TAKE a pen that works & fill it out in your motor if weather is bad ,modernise how ? entrys on the day how many trials have you been to with no phone signal =internet so no app/ paypal it then ? There is nothing stopping riders filling a entry form in at home. Take the correct entry fee with them but they dont even do that !

So a professional sport with professional promoter but needs? with NO disrespect to a AMATEUR club volunteer work force ie find land observers & helpers put the trial on ? , So theres nothing to worry about then at WTC coz its not run by amateurs any more so riders will stay & entrys will flood in along with the cash ! YES i do know what goes on as i helped with the gps at penrith ! .

The trouble with trials at wtc is TRIALS it is a amateur sport run by amateur volunteers for professionals so were dose/will the money come from ? to keep these riders in the sport

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