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Problem with trials "fun riders all the gear and no idea" people to come to the the sport late on in life want to change the sport, whinge on about what class people should in-, the sections / course are to hard - what bike should be in what class,All because they dont want to start at the bottom and work up, So put the hours in to get your standards up dont expect a series trials rider be dragged down to a fun riders standard , If you can not ride the sections YOUR are not good enough ! what you will find is good riders will have good bikes because they put the time in to be like that .So next time you whinge on about trials being hard ask yourself how much time you spent at the gym , practice & working on the bike ?

This is the problem, serious trials riders who have worked and trained hard at it to get better and then casual rider who dont , Is the solution have FUN only trials and REAL trials and separate them. This would cut down on number of courses laid out (its hard at times to find hard/easy routes in 1 section) & riders know what they type of trial they are going to

trialsrider 46 you hit the nail on the head back in the day you had to work through the grading system NO grading system now so this is the problem with trials, riders ride what ever class they want .with a grading system in place it would get the riders on the right course (Section getting made harder) It was not that long ago top riders were wanting hard trials they got there wish find they can not ride the sections, so they drop a course or decide to get a pre 65/ twinshock ride against old men, then moan the sections are to easy , As for the bikes think your on a looser there, lets be real the bikes pre 65-twinshock most now NEVER existed

wonder if the ACU is fighting his case ? as Toby must have a acu international licence ?

i change my gear oil when its a struggle to find neutral , works for me

The bike has to be RIDDEN by someone ,and if that someone (professional) spends 24/7 training it will be taken to its limit no matter what please tell us how ? TRIALS is old fashioned not changed from day 1 ride between set of flags and lose marks THE END ! anything other then its not trials is it ,£ CASH $ theres your wow factor were will that come from ? This is were the whole problem is with world trials you are talking not about sport any more but someones wage /job

Is the problems with world trials caused because it is a amature sport run for professionals by amatures ?

i am just sceptical of it once people start having to sign things seem to spiral and you or me dont know what it might bring to trials it could be very good or it could be very bad. Me i like to just leave trials as they are ,good luck with what you do

im not saying they will not step up NOW ,But your attitude is you expect them to " go and sign on get a sash" They are then put in a situation of pressure of staying at the trial ALL day think how they feel if they go early and someone hurts themself and they are not there ?. Yes great for the first couple of trials but will it end off like observers(expected) the same people get asked at every trial ? Every trials club is run by volunteers its a SAD day to expect the clubs to sort a plaster and someone to apply it ! WHY dont YOU organize (take on) the first aid at trials in your center ? im sure the clubs would love the help 1 thing less for a over stretched club workforce to do

Why should a first aid trained person make themselves known ? if having a day off imo reasonable, As for first aid kit riders have there own imo reasonable, Really were dose it all stop ? Do we manage at trials now so why is were is the problem ?

a blame clam well weres theres a blame theres a clam eg, (ok you put a plaster on someone the wound gets infected the plaster is out of date and you end up getting sued ) easy money ! todays culture

YES & No he did not mention a ambulance I said "youll, WANT a ambulance next !! " WHATS WRONG with the rider having his/her own first aid kit on them at all times no ones stopping you doing that now or go back to your car and sort yourself out ! So what happens if no medically trained person is at the trial or come forward ? just cancel the trial then or do as we do now ? Faussy are your saying the club now has to find/supply medical/first- aid trained person when they struggle to get 10 observers now .

YOU are looking for problems that are very rare ,next you,ll want a ambulance at a trial just incase . You would find any trained first -aiders would step up if needed .As for clubs, clubs are run by volunteers who is going to take responsibility & liability( blame clam society) if the first aid treatment goes wrong ?,Read the sign "caution motor-sport is dangerous" so is it not down to the rider for his/her own safety ? seen loads drinks bottles taped to bikes never seen a first aid kit . Should we put entry fees up and book a ambulance for every trial first aid will be well covered then or just use 999 as we do now" that worked for me !" I feel this topic will come under " can of worms"

Hi think you will find the magnet is fitted wrong way round in cap

hum Nebulous wonder why the phones ringing non stop from people wanting to sell hardly used vertigos ? if they are that great !, Have you ever rode one for yourself ?. After reading your montesa novel just wonder how you can tell someone how and what the bike needs to sort it out. Im sure vertigo will be on the phone soon for help

clear as mud ,And the moral of the story is your money your choice your problem !

make your mind up! nebulus good deal you be tempted /later ossa better prospect.? Then go off to slag vertigo dealer but you want a vertigo dont like the price then dont buy it . You have done nothing but complain about the montesa YOU bought with all its faults .So are your really the man to give advice on buying a trials bike ?

The gasgas bash plate bends up at the rear .The spacer is put in to bring the bash plate down making it more flat ,So allowing the bike to slide over/off rocks and not catch dog bones guard/ mounting plates .which over hang frame

so whats wrong with 20/30 riders ?why do clubs feel they have to get a large entry

Were do i say anything about expert riders ? i said HARD COURSE coz theres not just experts who ride on it is there ?

Were the entrys ? how about the entry fees of £15 adults £5 kids or adults £20 & kids free ! is that why entrys dropping off adults think why should i have to pay for someones kid to ride a trial . Lets look at all trials clubman route full --hard route a hand full of riders on it have we been looking at this all wrong theres not a problem with trials at clubman level ,its more to do with the hard course at trials if only 1or2 riders can ride the section whats the point of it ? so what do we do make the sections even harder to take marks off them not make the sections easy so more riders get a chance ,yes the top rider wants them harder he gets more of a advantage ! but then what happens they can not do it so, pack up or move down a course but that course is to easy so the problem starts again !

O my hero dabster ! moan and complain ok I am but maybe i dont have rose tinted glasses ! I have seen things objectively and dont like the way the sports "gone" its not for me any more !.

Well nigel i really dont give a toss if you think if thats a feeble excuse thats how i feel ! yes ive found clubs with a few good trials but over the years they have gone , SO find suitable trials get involved seen that done that ! So im lucky to live were i do well dont you think we get sick of same place same sections also? you come up to Richmound trials why for something different ? so why dont YOU change the trials in the midland center if theres a problem with them (as you and jimmyl tell me to do that ) But as always YOU know best !

well nigel since a flanged rim is NOT fitted with any rim tape and it solid rim ie no spoke holes thought YOU would know which we were talking about !

breagh , ive riden trials 46 yrs lived it loved it Stopped due to, Lack consistency to sections ive ridden trials expert section 1 trial the next trial the same section is clubman or you ride 50/50 and get given a section the experts are 5 or 3 you just dont know what your going to get so air on caution and get easy sections drop nothing or ride next course up but take the risk of a big off & hurt as its rocks here