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Meh,mine weighs 193lbs. SWM about the same. 1 gal or so of fuel. Fantic has CT fuel tank,no saddle,no lights, rear tubeless rim off a 307,Dunlops,Beta tr34 forks,Yamaha front wheel(Worth it for 1 finger drum brake action),alloy footpegs,custom alloy airbox,allot silencer,I guess I've added as much weight as the removal of the OE lights and harness.Think I will cut the exhaust apart and clean it this winter(Could be worth 5 lbs maybe) Fantic rides much lighter than SWM,SWM more graceful crossing big logs.

I was thinking that the larger cover for the clutch would mean that the cases would be larger,but eyeball measuring looks like it "might" fit,the 240 clutch cover is stepped down in diameter where my 309 isn't,this might mean that a 305-309 clutch could possibly fit if the larger cover was used...I really don't want to swipe anything off of my 309,I will be tearing it down for rod replacement in a few months,I'll check on swapability then.Don't really need the bigger clutch as I've got the 240 clutch working dreamy,but the 309 clutch action is definitely better.

I'll get out to the garage and compare,but don't get your hopes up. gotta wash the dog poop off my mountain bike tires first,stunk up yhe van all the way home,getting too dark to ride,can't see what I'm running over

What the hell have you done to get it down to that weight,I'm scared to weigh mine! don't wanna think about it!,SWM kicked my ass this weekend following the modern bikes around,went everywhere they did but man,did I wear down quick,240 definetaly "feels" lighter than SWM,but still way above modern. BTW Glenn,rode my buddies 06 GG 200,Wow,runs very much like a 240,really likey!

Before motocross instituted weight minimums it was all about which factory could make the lightest,most disposable bikes(Suzuki's 165lb open classer),Technology was not advancing,once everyone could hit the weight limits it forced the manufacturers to develop the suspension,engines,handling aspects,MXers got exponentially better.I don't know if it will go that way in Trials,the bikes already seem spectacular to me,might spur some more 4st development.Hopefully bikes will get weighed after the events,maybe 30 marks for every kilo under minimum rather than disqualifying.

Made some brackets to lower the footpegs and fit modern ones,found some decent paint to match Rustoleum Cobalt Blue metallic.I plan to spray the entire frame over the winter so the minor extra metallic and purplish shade will actually look good. Interesting,this bike gives me courage to cross larger logs than my Modern Sherco or Hot Rod Fantic,But it's old school response(better than a TY350 though) makes short vertical climbs/hops very difficult.(picked up a quick turn throttle to put on) I did take it for a long ride today and was able to get over and up everything the modern bikes did that I would try on my Sherco. I will need to see If I can rebuild the shocks,they are dead and slam bottom hard on any drop. Sliding the forks up through the clamps about 8mm helped the handling,actually stabilized it from putting more weight on the front tire,I will try another 5mm or so if the fender won't hit the lower triple clamp,handling is still flighty compared to the Fantic or the Sherco. Bike turns very sharp,I may experiment with the shocks from the Fantic that are 20mm longer to shift more weight forward,that seems to be what this bike wants for stability,reverse logic I know,whatever works! Motor is amazingly smooth,like it's electric Let a couple of buddies try it out,they say I have two "cheat" bikes now (TY175 riders)

I recommend finding riding partners,nothing will accelerate your learning curve than riding with experienced Trialsers, I know a few guys in western PA that would be very glad to have another rider along. I also recommend observing/scoring at the first event you can attend(we just had one in Toronto,Oh last weekend) you will only have to punch scorecards as you'll be paired with someone who has done it before and you'll be able to watch all skill levels. Watch the rider more than the bike.

Come on over,anytime! I didn't post the pic where my outside knee position is all wrong,seems like I don't stick my knee to the outside of the turn when riding vintage bikes,It's automatic on my Sherco,more practice needed! Now I need to fix it's flat front tire,clobbered a ledge rather than finessed it.

Rode Trials Inc. Vintage cup finals last weekend,big,big fun! Didn't finish well but sections were tougher than the line I usually ride on my modern Sherco,single line trials event! Even the ladies at the scoring table said everyone wants my Fantic

Gonna have to get used to that on the 320 I just got too,man,it's so beauty smooth and really is powerful,but the response is on a different calender day than my Fantic 240.Chickened out on the Trials Inc. Vintage Cup Finale and rode my Fantic both days,sections were tougher than I usually ride my Modern Sherco in as all skill levels rode the same line.After the last loop on the second day In fired up the SWM and rode another loop,cleaned almost every section that I was able to clean on the Fantic,just have to time yourself differently. Think I'm gonna like this big yeller thing!

My 240 vibrated more with Fatbars,swapped back to protapers,the fatties I had were stock Sherco.

1 Finger on the clutch,1 finger on the front brake at ALL times,practice pulling in the clutch to slow forward drive until it's a automatic reflex. Getting used to the clutch control is job#1 with a modern trials bike. Find compatriots to ride with,fun that way,and you'll learn much quicker. If your beginner bike is the same make and model as a riding mate you can ask advice on setup and maintenance.

Well,it may be simpler to fit a Aprilia clutch cover then If I can find one!

I'll have to do the Big Balls conversion then,just for the namesake only! I do say my temporary solution is a hack,but it feels better like this: You can see the tendons in my hand getting a wookout---- <--click,I dunno how to embed But when riding it it seems easier,rode for like ten 10 minutes straight doing figure eights in the tiny back yard(Side yard has too many dog piles the kid hadn't cleaned up,Automatic "5" if you hit one) without getting cramp in hand,using the clutch in every turn,and since your never in a section more than a few minutes she may be OK

Well,Let's call it a Kludge...first I got a new Moose Racing CR ratio lever,made a new upper cable to take the smaller cable end,then(and here comes the inelegant part) hooked a throttle return spring to the lever under the tank and pulled it forward to connect at the coil mount bracket,then took a spring that I had removed from a automotive coil-over-plug coil assembly and wound it around the lower cable to push on the lever,these are very light springs and will in no way cause clutch slippage,just give my finger a bit of help. Maybe I'll remove 2 clutch springs when I refurbish the cosmetics this winter,but if it works well during tomorrow's practice I will call it good ;-) Adjusted the too tight steering head bearings,put on new fork wipers and changed the fork oil,made another front brake cable so I can have matching brake lever and clutch lever once I go pick up the one I ordered. Next on the agenda Is to fab some modern footpeg mounts,see Heath Brindley's setup on his SWM.stockers are narrow and at a odd angle that leaves me riding on just the back knife edge,and higher than my other bikes,will lower to skidder level. Out of spare footpegs,will need to hit up JimmyZ once he gets back from Coal Hollow event. Putted around back yard,getting really good and suited to me,suspension action is slow,but I used 5w20 in the forks as I had no fork oil around,it'll do until I invest in better shocks as the stock shocks are slow reacting too,5w20 made the forks match the action of the shocks. Have a intake boot on order from Midwest SWM(siliconed up the cracks in the present one,good enough for play),if it gets here before our Vintage Cup series finale I'll ride the Fantic 1 day and the SWM the next,not like I'm in contention,Ryan Young and Quinn Wentzel are riding it too,I'm the lowest level rider in it,but I do manage mid-pack finishes against champ,expert,and advanced riders(My Fantic is like cheating,but it's more like an equalizer considering my competition)

usually you can just look to see if a rim lock is fitted,if so,not tubeless or not tubeless anymore.

Got the clutch down to 1 finger operation,Put on a new set of Dunlops.

I'll give it a go on experimenting with the clutch,it's no more difficult than my 240 was when I got her,and now she's a 1 finger beauty with no slippage. Can I use the clutch cover off of a Climber by blocking off the water pump crapola? Much more likely to find a derelict climber than a air cooled Aprilia over here,if I came across one of those I'd have to fix it up too!

Yep,already drilled a new hole lower on the arm for the lower cable,helped a bit but to go lower I'd have to fab a hangar to drop the cable attachment point,not a quicky fix. Trying to lighten the spring rate first will preserve my engagement point location. Bought a Moose racing CR lever last night and it seems to have decent geometry,I can't get along with Domino levers even after heating and recontouring to a better shape.My Fantic started out just as hard to pull as the SWM is and now she's only about 10% harder than my Sherco.Think I'll borrow the mini inductor from work this weekend and heat and rebend all my spare levers into a copy of the Sherco levers as that allows the best clearance for the fingers remaining on the handlebars. P.S. The Fantic does look good,I'll work out the tuning on the SWM then make her comparable before next season,but I want things like footpeg position and suspension action sorted before cosmetics. I'm hoping that the Betor alloy shocks will work so that the suspension brand will be the same front and rear,I will experiment with putting on the Fantics marzocchi to see If I like the longer shocks,but footpegs must be lowered first before jacking up the back end.

Thought I was paying too much as Ebay ad said it didn't run,but by the time I did the "Buy It Now" he'd got it going.Engine sounds terrific! Runs beauty! So Smooth,quietest running 2stroke I've ever heard :-) Gonna need alot of tweaking to get it as effective as My Fantic 240,but progress is already being made,have clutch down to easy two finger/OKay but distracting 1 finger action,will try taking out a couple of clutch springs next.Brakes are strong,rims round,tires hard as stone ;-) no oil in forks,rear shocks leaking from not being ridden. Footpegs are miserable,will cut those pristine mounts and never tweaked(Or even come in contact with anything other than a bootsole) footpegs and pitch them Engine pulls like an electric motor,Luv It! handling will need some work but will tune on it once suspension is sorted out. Question: can I run this on the 80-1 I use in my Sherco? Wouldn't be a big issue mixing up maybe 60-1 and sharing it with my Fantic. Of course full synthetic oil. Any source for the 38mm fork wipers? Haven't seen them anywhere online,but maybe there's somewhere for SWM parts I am unaware of. Thanks, Pic of both my twinshockers heading out to a practice outing last sunday damn,that trailer looks awesome with that load on her!

Buy whatever your riding partners ride,carry one set of spares for everyone,share advice on tuning,setup. If no trials riding partners find some,trials is hard to improve at without others around.Oh yea,and enter events,don't just play ride.

Good cable,O.E.clutch lever(not shorty),had a extender on my 350,clutch pull was pretty decent.My 350 didn't like to be ridden like a trail bike,If you rode it from section to section,walked the section,then rode it,cruise to the next section and repeat it was happy and ran well.The brief cool down periods kept it from getting to the point of pinging. Next test session try imitating a trials event to see if it runs more consistent. Don't know if the 250's have the same issue. The 350's did have a reputation for pinging.

You don't want your foot tight against the frame while riding,it'll cause a dab if the bike deflects to the right.

How about Yamaha SR500 singles?

CRF 150 carbs are pretty cheap on ebay,25 bucks free shipping.