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You guys need to fill out the location, in your profile... Well, is there some reason most of you dont want to show this info, especially on here?? IMHO, that way the 'where you from' thing is answered up front, and helps us find guys to ride with EASIER.... Looking myself for locals to Nebraska events... seems a big smiley is in order too!

Yo! DUDES, more info on the 'problem' please? was the fan not working, or what is up? Raga's version has different one that the regular 04-05 models? Maybe I have the problem you have but thought it was normal (as is usually the case until I read this group, ya know?)

I had the exact same symptoms in the early 80's with my 123 Montesa. fought it for a long time. We sold the bike in frustration & disgust, the guy put a coil on it, never had a problem AFIAK. CDI could get hot and do this nowdays I am betting....

Eggcellent point, I had the 04 despiece pdf (parts breakdown), and the o5 I just got thanks to you, Well, same part #'s for the fiber plates, But it would seem, that the steel plates must have changes. Hmmm. Printing off the pages for both parts-breakdowns, to examine more closely

From this page... PS I have an 04 300Pro, so it has me wondering... http://www.gasgasmotos.es/eng/frame.htm (not sure maybe they copied this directly from the 04 page?) But it would seem that they have updated the clutch once again? Wonder what EXACTLY ALL parts they changed, if so? Plus now I would be confused, the 'mineral oil' used in the clutch hydralics? is that in 05 only, maybe overseas only? luckily I havent had the problem like in the past with knocking banjo fitting around, causing air to get in it... but surely I will at some point, just as before... so I need to know if I need new fluid to keep on hand, ya know. Anyone out there know?

The guy I bought mine from uses ROCK OIL, I like the idea, because it is CLEAR, when new, dirty when dirty. now to get more... LOL That GM oil was like 9 bucks a quart? jeebus

WTH is glamis?

Ok I know Premix oil preference and ratio could be just like favorite colors, in any crowd, but I really would like to know what you all think is good. About the gas, I am able to buy from our local (auto) racing supply/engine builders, sunoco brand racing fuels. I mix this higher octane (I believe it is 106) 50/50 with regular pump gas (it is the only-non alcohol readily available and its octane is 85-86). The race fuel supplier, he has only 3 octane levels, that alcohol is NOT used in, but all of them have lead (if I recall the conversation correctly). Does this matter? I do buy the cheaper lower octane version, at about 5 bucks a gallon. For 8-10 bucks a gallon, I could opt for getting some NO-LEAD VP-Racing fuels available at another engine builder, it is at 112 octane. I try to spend my money wisely that is all. saving a dollar is good... if it dont come to paying double later... Ok now on to the oils.... I mix my Castrol TTS, at 80:1 religiously, mainly because readily available, and I notice the price jumped a buck a quart... this is thier selling points... Castrol TTS (100% SYNTHETIC) well, Im just looking for some suggestions, thoughts, and opinions about the gas & for oils. I know the guy who I bought my bike from loves "Rock Oil" I dont know what all products they have yet... I Need a link to them.. thanks...

When is AJP? going to make the shorty lever for the 04 (and other similiar models, Im sure are the same) gasgas pro's? The clutch is different than the old ones, as there is no offset for the adjusting screw. the old brake levers still fit, but the clutch perches are different. I got to have shortys, my fingers are soo short.. LOL Anyone find out, be sure to let me know

Ok now find some of these post 01 wheels for us Dont forget us in the States too!

I can sum up for ya why the aftermarket doesnt make a killing in the trials scene, as such... In this kind of sport, the .002 thousandths of a gram that you shave with the titanium bolt (yeah Im exxagerating) did NOT keep you from putting your foot down 3 times, or going out of bounds 3 times at the last trials you finished off the podium in. Do I need the fat bars? no. want them, well maybe. I dunno, but hell, I go nuts with the idea sometimes- that FOX gets 2 bucks a sticker I put on the dang number plate... and yet after I put this on, I still fived section 3, 5 times last week? Make the changes to the bike, all you want, in fact I would suggest that you dont let yourself get annoyed when they ask "why'd you do that?" or whatever. because You know, it is to make sure you havent stumbled onto the next big thing.... But dont forget that, deep down - we all know that Dougie, Fuji & Raga, will whip our ass riding either his, mine, or your bike. so does it matter? But in Moto-x, the bikes from the factory compared to the works bike next to you, is possible to kick your ass in the straight between turn 1 and the second whoops, even if you are 'perfect' on the bike... "If I put Nitros on a wr450F, then I could McGrath down the straight, whoohoo!!! here's your seven thou, ship that kit over here..." That my friend is the silly mindset & unfortunate reality, of the racer crowd...

Ish, The evidence that you are on the right idea track with that post, is blindingly clear to me also. Let me add: I think about this part (another thread being discussed about making a trials movie/video that hopefully could be used to introduce and to entice or attract newer riders) the mere fact that everyone that has contributed to the thread more or less agrees that it really really needs to show and focus on what average joe can forsee as do-able. Maybe more emphasis for getting Pampera-type or scorpa Long ride type of bike & riders into trials, is the way to go? I dont know the figures on sales, but except for MOTO-x & street, what selling? I think (due to ignorance of sales facts and figures) that maybe the future is people who buy just plain ol casual use dirt bikes, & more each year seem to have done it, arent doing so thinking they can do a back flip, it is just because riding is looking like fun. Now to get them doing trials, then getting the bikes... that is the hitch I havent figured out exactly. PS... I stumbled into this 3rd Idea, as I typed this post... Ponder this one unfortunately because Motocross involves full faced helmets, you dont see the stress these guys are under, like you do when Dougie is walking and or riding the section... Total concentration and stress or worry looks... Hey maybe that is the key here, the helmets? could it be that Everyone assumes Ricky Carmichael is smiling the whole 20 lap main event, so they want a MX bike? Sure, Extreme draws a crowd, so do accidents.

Following up on MY last post... Here's how you fix trials... Since the train's already left the station, the bird has left the cage... BTW just some history... It wasn't that long ago, in the early 80's or late 70's, I remember when there was a stink about the opposite way back when? Anyway few really TOP riders & some support people were complaining that the clubs in america were too easy at the top levels, and how in the USA nothing was TOUGH enough in highest classes-competitions to prepare our top riders for Pro World Competitons... Well now the highest competition levels are higher, but oh so few reach it, almost none could do it without some kind of monetary support, thanks to moving into the era Paying to ride (pro) and all that. Go figure... Well what now? Can you imagine, doing what dougie did this year at Minnesota, without PRO support status? I cannot. But I think I could compete against "similiarly prepared" riders, in a real trials, like the Heydays, where AMATURES, not PROs did the competing. lets fix it this way, NO MORE PRO RIDERS, NO MORE CUSTOM "WORKS" bikes in competition. no more 6 person crew to follow Dougie or Adam to the gym every day, and the rest of the day fixing the special bikes that they ride... You see, to me it is fairly simple, To sell large amounts of anything that is, so unusable for anything else, is what a trials bike is, needs to be cheaper and still durable, this would make the prospect more favorable. Trials bikes that were cheaper than the plain old bikes you see on the floor of say your local bike shop, that I think is the key to playing "catchup." Lets consider what it costs Montesa to flip the bill on what, 6 riders on specially configured ---UNSTOCK--- Motorcycles? FYI, that support money comes from customers who pay "extra" for already figured into the price prices. yea, there's going to be trade off's again, like slower paced technology jumps maybe, but more people in to a "cheaper because it has to" sport would be a good thing... I argued about this for years, BTW, that they need to make KIDS bikes almost free (in a sense) because like me, like my dad, like you: I dont get to ride all by myself, I dont have the "time." I must make time for me and the kids. So to make this a win win, I got my kid a bike, and we embark on this bonding journey, just like my father had to do back when... To me, they way to get this going in a hell of a hurry, they could cut costs way down. IF a factory wants to see or show thier wares and bikes suitability (win on sunday sell on monday) maybe? I think it would be cheaper to "give" lease of "bone stock" bikes to *TOP AMATURE* riders, as they choose much like they do now for pro? But I recall factory bikes being destroyed back when... Anyway to keep this from going nuts, after each year, you have to sell them off, either renewed or at the discount like a 1 year old bike is now anyway, this is so Sponsors like Montesa, dont lose the whole 6-7 thousand dollars (value of the bike is now, when new). But again these bikes, without the "factory" supporting race teams with big budgets, how much could we cut off the price of a bike? I could be all wet, but I would bet things would be better...

Ok, Im lost In a way...? BTW, I was commenting on trialsurfer's comment that people may seem likely to quit if they get high scores, or cant get much more than 3's and Fives... OK Im on a seperate issue, Club level riders... </Rant on that now over>

My Opinon, as compared to yours, not a flame! I dont know for sure why/how you come to this conclusion? I Just dont think this is true, at least of most people. Well ok, the ones this is likely true about, well they dont compete, or they stay in lower classes and the day's fun is the mere fact that they rode. Thats off topic IMHO because most of these guys ride when it is convieniant and all that too. I want to think, most trials riders are die hards and competitors, I think... I could be wrong, I too get tired of picking myself and the bike up after the 5 (or sometimes a string of them) at some meets. But I dang well like winning or beating the next guy by getting a 2 somewhere, instead of the 3 he got during the same event, instead of him cleaning every section... or vice versa. (I say this for classes below master/champ & maybe expert of course) IMHO, I think if your consistantly scoring below 10 points for the winner or top3, on 8 sections average- ridden 3 times, that class is NOT really challenging you or the competitors. This is more discouraging to me as a rider, to get sub 20 points, and get 5th or not place, IMHO. Maybe at 39 Im toooooo old school? Seems the rewards have been moved in trials as of late... PAR (golf term) for a section, for many must be zero points Even on lap one? To me Par is 3, a 2 or a1 is like a birdie, 0 like an eagle... Then on lap2, everything moves up a bit... so instead of a 3 being par, I expect maybe a 2, because I should have learned something on lap one... Yada Yada lap3 I hope some sections I can set par to be even better (some cleans). BTW, a hole in one, is when nobody else cleaned that section all day, that you did... But that is just me I supppose. Maybe I am just stupid or unique and misjudged the rest of my competitiors natural ability, and how they seem to really enjoy beating the section AND me (good natured ya know) Again, for the record... I hate 'nerve racking' 5pt winner, trials days, where one slip cost you the whole day! To me that is more discouraging than having picked up 43 points and the winner picked up 41... now granted, when the winner got 20 and I got 43, it takes more "mentality" to not give it all up I guess, but I usually try a lot harder for the next month, practicing bike prep whatever... and I have! But to me, I thin you think Most riders, is instead of thinking I should move down a class, or give up... I think I have just formulated a poll question... If I get this edited and posted before I decide to keep my opinions to myself

IMHO: This CC restriction is rediculous. & thank (your deity here) that it isnt enforced here in the US... (I removed most of my reply, since it has nothing really relavant to the OP's topic...)

Pretty neat idea! I love the cheap solution idea too! Perfect because saving even 20 bucks leave me that 20 bucks to ride with... Im on this... hehehe.

10 tooth front sprocket? was that the standard one? if you dropped down, I would recommend going back up. if not, disreguard this...

Why do you call it the 250? arent they called 280? even the specs (least on the website I looked at) list the displacement at 272.2cc... and the 200's are 175.3cc ya all are confusing not only me, but I think others... I keep thinking you have some new model al together? dang nevermind they apparently do make 250's over there, and dont import them (or export them depending on point of view) to the US.

Why do you call it the 250? arent they called 280? even the specs (least on the website I looked at) list the displacement at 272.2cc... and the 200's are 175.3cc ya all are confusing not only me, but I think others... I keep thinking you have some new model al together? (thanks, & from the US)

Wouldnt the obvious be to get the cylinder and piston for the 200 pro be the answer? yes it would only kind of depend on the conditions of engines you are currenlty at, I mean, if it needs anything other than rings, I would go for the bigger jug&piston, I am half sure rest of the engine is zactly the same? least it was told to me they were on the txt's, and in fact that is why I bought the 10 year old (he'll be big soon) the 200 because same bike with the 280 jug& piston could easily be done cheaper than a new bike... but who knows I could win the lottery by then and we'd all have new 4strokers, NOT!!!!

still... any ideas on pipe guards?

Ill do that, I got to find that dang camera... Until then, this is it exactly... except the 160?? we have ---> is yellow. Notice that the plastic tank is not visiable, but the colored plastic covering the tank & matching fender is though. I will post the frames serial or whatever, seems someone here said one digit represents the year? I might have to fashion my own guard?

Got what is supposed to be a 96 gasgas 160, frame more resembles the 94 if you look at the GG museum though. Anywho, wondering where to get the pipe guard for this old thing, all I see listed is for the newer bikes and the pipe out of the head doesnt have quite the bend the new ones have. any suggestions?

Hey, Was nice to meet you RLracer and thanks for bringing the boots! Was a dang nice set of exhibition sections, I thoroughly enjoyed watching these guys do thier thing. One question, do you ride these so that you know they they can ride these? Hope to see you and others at the AVTA event.