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Sorry I used the wrong terminology. I know its a vent just used the word overflow. I just pushed the fuel cap pipe into the carb vent pipe that is directed up. The vent pipe that is directed up is linked to the vent pipe going down, at least when I blew through it. Maybe ill just do the old school method and stick the fuel cap pipe in the top of the stem nut, just to be safe.

Hi How is the tank vent tube routed on your bikes? Ive always just tucked the little tube into the top of the tank cover but if I get a overflow, the fuel runs down the clutch hose and throttle cable causing dirt and dust to stick everywhere. What I did now was stick the tube into the carb overflow tube that is routed up under the tank cover. It should breath ok and if it overflows it will flow into carb and then flow out the bottom of the bike. Do you see any issues with this or how is your bike tube routed?

I was also a climber for a few years and worked at the sa climbing gym. Never suffered any injury training but then again it was 15 odd years ago. I get overly obsessed with my hobbies and cannot cope with being a novice, hence all the training. Im climbing the ladder fast but I guess im not as fit and agile as I used to be.

Ask around at the club and see if anyone has some old boots to sell you. I was given these. A strap was missing and the padded rim at the top had disintergrated. A new strap, some stitch work and polish and presto......should squeeze a few more years outa them.

In the head yes but the body is starting to disagree. Would it be better for the body training little bits often or training lots/longer and less often (ie: hour a day or 3-4 hours twice a week)?

Is there such a thing? Im trying to train often, ie 4-5 times a week. Am I over doing it? Reason im asking is my body is taking strain....elbow issue, sore arms etc. Would I be better off doing less or should I push through untill the body adapts?

Well I think I finally have my zap figured out. I zapped my big tire 5 or 6 times in a row like in the vid above. It feels so smooth. Very chuffed.

Hi guys Im still practicing as often as I can but the elbow has kept me off the bike here and there. Ive got 2 new obstacles and ive tightened things up a bit. Not super smooth yet but I feel im starting to progress a bit faster now. Still having a ball though. Cheers

Independent suspension training wheels

Hahaha. It kept me busy......im obsessed with this trials thing and look for updates here often......but maaaan!......this forum can be slow at times, not this time though @africanjon: its always the refs fault

Well my bike is clearly better than yours....

Ok....let me admit defeat on this one.....I didnt mean to get anybodys hackles up. My dad admitted that the bike was too much for him and did what he knows to tame the specific problem that he was having and it worked for him. I have now been training on the bike every day and see the advantages of a fast throttle and smaller front sprocket, that is why I have refitted them. I am getting to a level where instant power/acceleration is needed and a advantage, it wasnt at my dads level. Anyway, I was not trying to tell advanced riders how to set their bikes up as they are far more experienced in trials than me, I was merely trying to state that the advice that was initially given did not help my dads "specific" issue but made it worse for him. Yes my title was abrupt, a kak day at work affected my wording.....I apologise. If this is going to harm anyones learning curve.....please can the mods remove it.

Alow me to explain what initiated this thread. My father has been riding and competing in all forms of two wheeled events (including trials - now classic trials) for 50 years (he turned 60 this year). He has also built almost every bike hes riden from the ground up. He bought a 2013 evo300 (the bike im now on). When he bought the bike, the dealer said he put a 10t on the front to make the bike tamer. Pops started out with the basics, fig 8s, little weelies etc and immediately complained that the bike was hard to ride slow as the throttle input was so aggresive and finicky, the bike was lurching forward when he was trying to give a little gas. Pops then ordered a 11t sprocket, and hey, presto. The bike was now easier for him to ride (as a modern trials beginner). He also then fitted a slow action throttle, which tamed the power down even more. If a "beginner" needs to tame a bike down, learn from my dads experience. There is a difference between those that CAN ride a modern trials bike and those that are just starting off. As you will see in the pic, me and my dad have been around bikes for a bit. The pic is of my dads guarage that I look a few months ago, not much has changed except his classic racecar was sold to make space for more bikes.

I might be new to trials but ive been riding and around bikes for 26 years to be precise. Age does not always mean experience. I have gone from a 11 ft to a 10 to make the bike more rideable. Did it make the bike easier to creep slowly......yes, did it make acceleration more responsive. .......yes it did. If I grabbed a handfull of throttle unexpectedly, would the bike respond more aggressively. ......yes it would. A few guys seem to get what im on about.

@billyt, steveo, southwester.....I understand 100% what you are saying. Engine braking etc will be slower/tamer with a smaller front and you will be able to creep slower.......however most guys that complain that a bike needs taming are saying so because they have less than perfect throttle/clutch control and the bike lurches forward and is too agressive when appling throttle.

It will slow the bike down if we are talking about top speed but it will make acceleration more aggressive. Acceleration is more important in trials riding as we need immediate response but we dont need fast top speed.

No idea what you just said English ?

That makes perfect sense. 1st gear on trials bikes is often too short as revs climb too fast but will not give you enough speed for bigger moves, move up to second and and you get a nicer balance of acceleration with a touch more speed. If you compare the front/back sprocket ratio between a trials bike vs a enduro, mx, gp track bike......the trials bike will always have a smaller front to back sprocket as trials bikes need aggresive acceleration in almost all gears. Take almost any other bike and try pull away in 3rd or 4th gear.....it will have almost no grunt on pull off.....but when they get going, then you get the speed.

I hear you rob but I get annoyed when people who I trust and turn to, give me wrong advice. Im gonna sit back and enjoy the show

Now that makes no sense at all. #1 was a small up front....which will increase acceleration and drop top speed. Ever watch land speed records? Thats why the bikes, cars etc cannot pull off from a stands till, they need a push to help them get going because their gearing (in trials bikes - sprockets - we not talking about internal gearing) is set up for maximum top speed which sacrifices acceleration. This is a no brainer if physics is understood.

Oh yes and before someone tries to get smart......with trials bikes, less acceleration is considered taming a bike down, not less top speed. Sorry if I come accross abrupt and blunt but this is a FACT that seems to confuse allot of new guys that costs them money and steers them in the wrong direction.

I am still amazed by the amount of bike enthusiasts that get this wrong......even bike dealers, importers etc etc. FACT: SMALLER FRONT SPROCKET: bike will have more power/acceleration low down and less top speed. Gears will feel shorter as revs will climb quicker. LARGER FRONT SPROCKET: Bike will accelerate slower but will have a higher top speed. Gears will be longer as revs take more time to pick up. SMALLER REAR SPROCKET: bike will have more top speed but will accelerate slower. LARGER REAR SPROCKET: bike will loose top end speed but will gain acceleration. Please argue with me on this.........! It amazes me that there are some pretty clued up guys out there that will baffel your mind with technical data but still skrew up gearing.

You definitely DO NOT want to put on a smaller front sprocket in order to tame a trials bike down. It still amazes me how people get this wrong!

That is some good advice right there. Ive always tried the japzap with a half decent runup and felt more speed is essential to get up a decent step. Today i tried a short runup that obviously slowed things down and what a surprize, the bike just hopped right up there effortlessly. Then to confirm, i took a long run up but at snail pace, and same thing. slowing things down helps a hell of a lot to getting your timing right.

Dam, my thighs dont reach my pegs.......im never going to get it right Mybe I should try my boys oset 12.5