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I spent hours downloading that vid to see whether it was .......Sherco........Honda.......... Looks like a bloody Triumph cub

Is that said in a Peter Kay styleee. I'm sure boofont noticed that one Heard your trial was a gud'n. Clashed again with the Welsh this time. Will hopefully make it up to some more of yours soon Bill. Was gutted I missed your charity (half arena) trial this year, but it clashed with the Manx 2 day. I find myself on the border of too many centres. Nice position to be in I suppose. My nephew would have to travel miles from the borders of Scotland to get a trial every weekend.

Just an extra thought. Who developed the seatless bike. Spanish? Japanese? Was it maybe for smaller factory riders who needed the extra movement/reach? At 6'2" I can't get my bum anywhere near the seat except when contorting myself to sit down for long road stretches, then my size 12's are scraping the floor. I've just been in the garage to try. I had a close one on the road in the Manx, when my toe got caught on a corner and flicked the back end out, all due to seating position. I vote for a seat for us freaks and old folk Makes sense to me for the road trials, especially if, as Ishy suggested, we can get some tools in it.

I hadn't really thought of it before, but how unnatural is it for a beginner to get on a bike and stand up right from the start. I would imagine it's bloody awkward??? Hard to imagine for those of us that were riding round on their dad's tank before they could talk, trials is in the blood, but I would think that many people actually feel a lot more in control when they are sat down????? Are people scared off by bikes with no seat??? Is that why Hare and Hounds is so popular??? On a slightly different track but related - My lad has a trials cycle, but it's useless for riding to school or generally knocking about with his mates, so he has to have another 'real' bike. In a similar way, if I buy a KTM 450 I can go to work on it, nip down the shops, mates house, then rag it round a track on a Sunday, and if it turns out I don't like Hare and Hounds I've not made a tit of myself. Not the same for the trials bike?

I'm going to ruin the most obvious comeback, no free rides: "Who do you know that my Sherco gear will fit fatty?"

You're asking for trouble spreading these photo's about Dabster. Have you bought one of these yet???? You're having a lot to do with the 4banger for someone who in public doesn't seem too keen. Need to spread some jam on the shoes as well, then invite your jeans down for dinner. Or was there something stopping them hanging properly? Bit excited about that bike. You're gonna have one of these, I know it, unless you've got too much Sherco gear to make it worthwhile. I'll send you my address so you can send me your Sherco stuff when you leave the fold.

If you don't notice it, why am I struggling round with my fat 4rse in the air when it could be fitted firmly to a comfy seat? Have we been duped by the fashion victims d'ya reckon? What's the truth? Do we ever actually get our bums in the hole where that seat would be. I reckon that as my knees are nearly touching the floor when I'm sat down, I probably never get anywhere near the seat while strutting my stuff in a section. Have they been over-designed then?

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So are these places allocated to the ladies for the three day event going to take places away from people wanting to do the six day event??? I'm all for equality. Just look at the problems with ladies golf, where women want to compete on the mens tour but can't because they have their own ladies tour. Maybe not a perfect example, but it's definitely better as it is. Totally equal and I'm sure most if not all of the ladies would agree. Why single them out, that's going backwards in my view. Are you going to let men ride the three day trial as well, maybe the fat ones who couldn't handle six days

I considered the Beta when I got my Sherco. I would still look again at them next time I change. I rode Tom Sagar's new 04 (before he modded anything) and liked it, but it did seem to take more out of my arms than the Gasser and Sherco. Anybody found that, or changed anything to combat that??? The only thing anybody seems to mention whan they talk about any Beta problems is the stators. Is that sorted now? Also seen two of them shear off the pin that the chain adjuster pushes up against, but maybe I saw the only two that ever did that My only other concern when I was looking was the way that so many of them seem to take a hell of a lot of clearing out and some just don't seem to clear out, and the fact that fuel seems to pour out when they're not vertical (I understand there's a mod for that). Even though I've never owned one, plenty of people round here own them, and it's the one bike that seems to keep people coming back. It seems like once you've had a Beta, you'll tend to stay with them. And I must admit, if I was entering the SSDT or the Scott, from what I've seen, I'd probably prefer to have a Beta under me than anything else if I'm quite honest, maybe followed by a Mont. That's not knocking the Sherco mind you which has given me a full year of totally problem free riding under considerable strain. I know of at least one rider that decided that the SSDT was not far enough to truly test the reliability of the Beta, so he added a fair few miles on to make it a bit harder. Eh Kinell? P.S. Marky - You need a 270 Lard-4rse

BS never mentioned that you two were an item DBS !! We're keeping it quiet for the kids sake. And the other halves might not be so happy to babysit for us on Sundays if they knew.

This is like being back at work. I really don't know what anybody is talking about Am I the only thick ****er round here or what?

I must admit I've thought about using shorties a few times. I bent my original AJP lever so that the ball was bent round almost 180 degrees (fell off not an intentional bend). It was just enough to get my finger in it, and felt great although looking a bit of a mess. If we're going to use one finger on the clutch why do we have a lever that fits 4 fingers? Surely you get more movement if the end of the lever isn't jamming up against the other fingers on the bar? A decompressor lever would do me. Just a thought - anybody any views on this?

Looks Good - Yes.

Right - All sorted - nearly. Tyre off again, kitchen sealant on all the spokes, vaseline coated on the rim tape, forced it in to the grooves, tyre inflated to 70lb. One spoke leaking slightly. Will leave it overnight to see how it goes. I reckon it may be OK. The tyre beader is now one of the best things I have bought. Just need that two inches cutting out and glueing back together. Goes on in minutes every time now.

I still think the problem of dragging new people in to the sport boils down to: 1. How do I find out if I will like the sport without splashing out 1,2,3 Grand for a bike? 2. What the hell is trials? 3. What's the catch? ie How much is it actually going to cost me to do this sport? Most people here could answer 2 and 3, but I think the most important is number 1. There is no easy way in to the sport if you don't know someone in the sport.

As I said before: no smarmy Mont owners please

I reckon you need to specify the money your spending, the level your riding, age group if Youth etc etc...................then we'll all tell you our bikes are the best ones

Right - happy with the tyre beader. Went straight up today with a decent compressor behind it. No straps, no messing about. Now - what about sealing yer spokes. What's the best tips. That was the reason I had the tyre off in the first place, as it had a slow puncture, which when put in the bath (wife away ) I could see that about 10 of the spokes were leaking. Stripped it, used kitchen sealant round the tops of the spokes, cleaned rim tape, but still the odd one or two leaking. Don't like the kitchen sealant idea anyway, as I reckon it will go off after a few trials and a bit of knocking about. Anyone any ideas?? And no smarmy Mont owners please By the way I had to cut two inches out of the tyre beader and superglue it back together as Dabster suggested. Works like a dream now. Cheers.

I think I've done Perce an injustice (in my mind). I saw some of his Scottish photo's where his head was puffed up like a beetroot and the picture has remained I thought you were a lardy like me Perce, but it appears you may be a lightweight (like Andy) One more daft question then. Who's the bloke with the glasses behind Perce? Seen him about too. Who's got photo's of the illustrious mr Greig then - I can only picture him as his Avatar - is it close?

My wife's away in Scotland for the week with the kids, so I think I'll wait until she gets back before the KY Jelly makes a sudden appearance. It's always hard to be convincing when you really are telling the truth

I'm not convinced. Who do you give the money to. All classes, expert only? We get enough 'sandbaggers' already, staying on the beginner route for as long as possible losing bugger all at every trial, just to try and snap up an award at the end of the year. Most people are happy to accelerate their way through to whatever class their ability puts them in, but would they if there was money up for grabs, or would they hang on as long as possible until they were pushed? If it's just for the experts, then that's not a problem, but if you put on quality sections you drag the experts in. Our club trial had 20 experts last week. When you consider there are 14 classes these days, that's pretty good. I don't think you can mark a trial out in one day. Needs at least a day to dig out new sections and a day to put the flags in and adjust them. If you've seriously thought about a section people can tell. As far as dragging new people in, Brian Pucket in South Wales runs a worthwhile scheme, I think on behalf of their ACU centre. Three Beta's and a Sprinter van, available for use for people who think they would like a go at trials. I don't know the full details but maybe someone on here knows? Cycle trials I think is a good way of introducing people cheaply. I think we should have a closer relationship with these too. Nice stepping stone in to trials?

Ahhhhhh....Beader!!!! This inch thick rubber is giving me problems. Just as I get to the point where I think everything's going to pop, it slips out and it's back to square one. Tried it with and without lubrication now and the same result. No inuendo intended much Scrapped it for the night, need to get the big compressor on it tomorrow.

I'm going to resist the temptation On a similar subject, I got my beader from Spain. Nice little bargain, only 17 euros.........plus 30 bloody euros for P&P No way of telling the postage when you checkout, they add it afterwards. Once bitten twice shy. Just noticed that these lot sell them for

Cheers, Seen him around a few times, just wondering. Any of you 'orrible lot on these photo's then?