charlie prescott

Hi Guys, Tracking???? Yes, you can run the back wheel , over in the frame, but parallel to the front wheel ,although the centre of the rear wheel tread has now been moved over!! This means the rear tyre is now not running central to the front tyre, but both, wheels are running in the same plane. Does this effect handling? Well it just means that by moving the back tyre over to the right slightly, you have moved the weight of the centre of gravity over into the opposite direction ,that you have moved the engine, so you have increased the difference of balance more to the right,so throwing the weight of the engine unit more to the left! The flywheel is already of of the centre line of the frame, but most Brit bikes run like this anyway! If you could move the weight of the outside running clutch, you would eliminate this situation. But then the bike would be classed as a Special because you could not have done this before 1965??? So if you can leave the wheels running in line. We do with the Otter frame, as the design caters for the chain clearance. Another plus for one of these frames. Then I would say that !!! . Yes bsaotter.com Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys., I have thought this may happen for a couple of weeks, I think this is only the tip of the Ice Berg so to speak. I walk the dog every day for about an hour, in Warwickshire and Oxfordshire, Old turf in park land has never been so saturated , this time of year ,and it has been like it since last September. the fields , I walk around after work have never been has wet in my memory. We must respect the people that let us use there land, and suffer ,the situation , until the weather improves??? Don't forget it is there livelihood , that is at stake, and not there hobby!! OK. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. Just thought I would update you on the Dream Twinshock? Well I did buy a frame late last year from Craig,one of the last four Mini Majesty frames he had. I have managed to get most other parts for the build from ebay etc. I already had a pair of TY 250 forks and front wheel. Swinging arm is a Honda XL 125 unit the motor is a 230 Cg copy. Well I can tell you that motor is tight in that little frame. Some of the fins on the head need modification. I struggled for a week trying to use the engine mount tubes that originally held the Yam engine.but ther was no way I could get the motor sitting anywhere near square or true using these. So the mini cutting disc came out again ,and I removed the obortion of a mount, I might add that this little Godden frame was built in a very agricultural maner, I know Mig welding was new at the time, but a pigeon could have made a better job of the welds , brackets made of bedstead angle by the first metalwork class at junior school. I have hated it for the last week, until I finally got the engine squarish in the frame! I now love it again, and can't wait to get it on the wheels. Back wheel is Jialing by the way JH 125, new after getting parts from several dealers new old stock. I bought a GF tank seat unit from Craig and will take a mould from this to incorporate a rear guard as well . Would I go through this love hate thing again? Well I don't know? Could get some copy frames built in Taiwan ,that the engine fits strait in. Or I could just press on with the Mini Otter frame to take the same engine or one from a pit bike????? You can follow the build on bsaotter.com Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. Hi Sam I have made my cub swing arm wider by just heating it and bending it on the Scott Ellis BSA bike. If you take a look at my web site, bsaotter.com. You will be able to read how it is done. Enjoy. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. Hi Suzuki. I think you will find that the Honda Cub C50 and C90 ,were made before 1965. And this is what a pit bike engine has derived from. I built a trials stroke messing about on bike using one of these engines in 1966-7 . Using. Frame tubes from cut up push bikes , so you see it would have been quite feasible to have built one of these bikes before 1965! Was there not a bike based on one of these in the Scottish two day a couple of years back? Then take a look what happened in the late sixties early seventies. Don Morley used Honda cub wheels on the BSA,s he built too. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys, Hi bulto boy. How tall is Jon Bliss then? Cant be far off of that hight? You all may mock? But watch this space. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guy's. This is where the "New", Pre 65, Pit -Bike engined bikes should come into there own, Light in weight, easy to pick up off the deck by young and old alike, cheap to build, buy, and run!!! using Honda Cub wheels from 1962, What more could you ask for in todays, spiraling cost of so called Pre 65???? Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. Hi OTF, I take it there is no update on Alan's loss? So someone is now the proud owner of some very HOT goods? And probably flaunting the fact to his close mates? Either here or abroad? One day they will come to light, probably at a two day trial somewhere ? Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys, Hi Andy, not having a go at you, and has you say every thing else on the bike is probably SPre65 compliant at the moment and this would help to sell the bike ,if you wanted to? But this only enfasizes the trend, that all Brit bikes must be SPre65 spec, or they are not worth building. And I know you think along other lines to! Like this Ipad telling me what words to use ? Badly and keeps getting it wrong! I feel that commitee in Scotland are doing the same. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. I can't believe what you guys are on nowadays ? Every other word is Scotland! This is why the cost of so called Pre65 is rising daily. There has to be a end to this madness shortly or it will be to late!!! Fork yokes are fork yokes at the end of the day, and does anyone care nowadays? Sam started the trend ,and if he had put pinch bolts on the outside, would they have been excepted in Scotland???????? Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys, Just a side note to the road holder fork convertion And expencive it is! 38 mm marzochii fork stanchions fit nicely into these without convertion ,but we are not able to do this as the forks would then be to cheap to use on Pre 65? Another unnesasary cost to add to the problem of expencive Pre 65 Scottish builds. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. The problem is we are only a few? And we are talking to ourselves, We are not even a nation wide network, and most off the readers could not give a stuff. This is the nature of the beast nowadays. This is the problem with the whole trials scene , no one does anything until it is too late. This incident must prove a point though.when something gets financially as expensive to fund, the crooks tack over running things, and the black market for these products, gets bigger. Van scrap? Could be? But I now doubt it. More likely someone who was at Telford, and could see the trend, and got one of Alan's cards after checking out the goods? Someone will be buying these parts,make no mistake, and YOU will probably know them. The police will not be that worried it is only a crime number to them, so it is down to us to keep our ears to the ground and track down anything we can ,as it is our sports reputation that is now at risk ,and will discourage other people joining the sport if this thing happens more frequently. I am sure Alan will continue in what he does, but he will now be on his back foot to who he thinks is a friend! Mark my words!! Charlie .

Hi Guys. I take it there is no news of the theft ? To much time now to find the van abandoned somewhere. So I was the van ,or the contents that were the target? We know that all of Alan's stuff is top of the range. And works. So if that is what they were after? It may have been nicked to order? Alan has had hubs nicked before, the goods are just that good! And there are many of these hubs about now so they may fade into the background. The frame looks to me like a Drayton? So this to could have a change of colour and disappear . I don't know what Cub parts were in the van until I speak to Alan. But you all know that agin he would only have the very best of parts, and you know how Cub parts are now getting scarce. The old adages that Pre 65 and Classic trials are just getting to expensive may be the problem now.which means there will be a load more of this type of parts targeted. Buy crooks to fuel there pashion. So these parts need finding NOW before the rot sets in OK. Don't forget this site only has a small following compared with the whole trials community ,so every one that reads this needs to pass the message on this weekend, now is the time to stick firmly together!!! Charlie.

Hi Guy's. Just posted on the other page, But just thought, Keep a lookout for the van as well cos this could be the link to finding the Nice People that comited this crime. Van sites Auto Trader ETC ,Actions ,Diddies sites, local paper And boats leaving the country. OK. We Need these Basta**'s found. Regards Charlie Prescott.

Hi Guy's Just read this and i am devestated, OK stuff gets nicked every day, but this guy does not need this. Alan has kept most of the bikes on the Classic Pre 65 scene running for a long time, and is one of the guy's you can rely on. I cant see anyone nicking the van for the vans sake unless it was a mistake. They must have known what was inside. If it was a mistake and the van was the target, the contents are probably dumped? If it was the contents they were after. Somone in the "Classic Scene" know where the frame and engine parts are! Dont sit on this one,OK, let the Police or somone know NOW. Some of the parts could have been mine, and I for one am not amused. This is the last thing we need,is a black market for Classic Trials Parts. So again if you know anything, and someone will ! Shop the bast**ds. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. Hi B40, The Line is, when you have a dream, and then run out of money. You have a mate that has a pair of forks from a discarded bike in his shed, and the front wheel seems OK to, I think they may be out of a 1970s bike he says, but if that's what you need to get your bike going take them, they are no good for me and I was going to throw them out , or put them on the net? But that would cost me. So A gets his trials bike finished and can ride it,in a trial, if there is a class for a Brit Special bike. and B he has a mate for life, for getting him up and running, And C we now have another guy riding a trials bike on a Sunday morning. OK. Someone also probably gets a pair of C15 forks that are useless for trials but would fit in we'll for a Classic road bike rebuild? Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. We keep going back to this Horrid trial in Scotland? That people keep thinking own the rules for Brit Bikes. Come on guys we have gotten to far down the pounds shillings and pence. Line now, to build a bike for one trial , that you may never get an entry for anyway. We have nearly put an end to building a cheap bike built mainly out of Britbike bits because, this one trial still dictates the rules for the rest of the year. Come on, build a bike that you can afford to build, and if you have, say TY wheels, use them, they work better anyway. We need new and more numbers, and trials to ride in for, guys who would just love to ride a Brit sounding bike, but can't afford one of the trick bikes built specifically just for one trial. It is now time to provide a new class for a new type of Classic trials bike, or we loose the lot. Mark my words. You may think I am crazy. But you do your homework. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys, I have been pushing the four stud forks for some while now, These forks can be built out of mainly new parts quite cheaply compared with any thing else, mainly using Wassel parts. Wayne Weedon makes vented caps for these forks now and we are working on other parts for the forks. TY 250 fork yokes can also be used.and don't forget these forks were 1966 in origin? BSA GP Victor! And are a lot more British, than most forks used in the so called Pre 65 . Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys Look I am not having a go at anyone. But in the past few years,there as always been someone who has put pictures or something on the same day. I now have a feeling that interest is not has great as it used to be? I would have been there if I was not as ill as I am! Maybe that is part of my frustration? Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. Hi Suzuki. Bad Engineering practice extending the arm like that, now you have two welds to break? Do your homework on the hubs , it is far cheaper to buy some than to make your own. And you know the ones that are already tested work, been there as they say, Give Alan a ring. Regards Charlie.

I thought the Bigest Four stroke trial was held in the UK yesterday? So Where is a report from the trial? Or even a mention? This Classic Trial Scene Has really took A Dip in popularity in the last couple of years ,has it not? I hope I am wrong? Or am I just banging my head for my own sake? Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys, Hi Peter. Is the frame bronze welded or miged ? Looking at it it looks as if the frame could have been converted to OIF, from a 66 onward Wd frame? Is that a Grimeca front hub that you have for the bike and Italian made forks? I remember Monty Banks but he used to ride Greeves, John Banks was a BSA scrambles rider though. Rebgards Charlie.

Hi Guy's. You know when them little coinsidenceses in life happen and you think I was there ? Well one happend today.!!! I was at home organising the stuff for my central heating? I know bikes have come before this in the past! but its cold at the moment!! Well in between the mails I was recieving saying your order has been delayed because of the conditions, I had two other e-mails. One from my very good freind's son Andy Paxton, who informed me that he had ridden Brian Martin's old BSA C15 in last years Scottish two day trial. Now this bike belongs to another good friend of mine Ted Freeman, who lives up the road from me? well a few miles. any way I replied to Andy, and then, Ping-Ping, another e-mail, In the mean time, I was just mailing Pat Slinn to let him know that Andy had ridden Brian's old bike in the Pre 65 Scottish. Well I opened up the new mail, and it was from Al Usher,with a picture attached, asking me if I knew anything about the Tigress'd engined Triumph trials bike,in the picture he had taken at the Classic Trials Show? I mailed him back and said I had just moved the DVD with that bike on for the plumber, so that he could ripp me floor boards up. I stuck the DVD into this old computer, and sure enough got the said interview up, This bikes name was "Vera" and was built by a guy named Ken Blunt, from Kent in 1989, later sold to Brian lethridge, and then sold on, to the guy in the film, Al asked me who now owned the bike, the one with the Bantam frame , that Tim Britton rode at our trial? Well I said I think that the bike is now owned by Cotswold legend Dave Moy, but I should have to check. The thing is I was only talking about this bike to a friend of mine,( who I had not seen for twenty years) who used to work on Tigress scooters with me at Dan Shorey's dad's old place North Bar Garage way back in the sixties. Anyway I was thinking when I mailed Pat, I wonder if that old works Tigress is still about and not scraped? Good story anyway don't you think? Regards Charlie.

Hi Guy's, OK I don’t live in the IOM But I visit as much as I can, And I can tell you over the past twelve months the rot has started to set in. a few of the trials practice sites have been closed, some due to owners of the land, some from outside pressures. A lot of the problem over there on this magic little place is that Very wealthy people move into the out lying trials areas of the land. If they are into bikes that’s OK. But if they are just there for spending some of there wealth, on a quite country pad, they don’t want noise pollution on a Sunday morning do they. The majority are well into the Motorcycling that has kept the island famous, but the pressure from the few is great, make no mistake about it. So voteing numbers need to be Great! SO Guy's every one that can needs to vote OK. Regards Charlie.

Hi Guys. Yep voted for sence to prevail , on this magic little island, where Motorcycles are. Number One. Regards Charlie.