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YOU HAVE USED WORDS OR A PHRASE WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THIS WEBSITE. PLEASE DELETE YOUR POST/TOPIC. DO NOT TRY TO CIRCUMVENT THE FILTERS IN PLACE ON THIS WEBSITE issue 4, page 39 a review of the British Youth Championship after 4 rounds (out of 8) D class (small wheel) Championship point so far 1st on 77pts on a Gas Gas 2nd on 71pts TY80 3rd TY80 4th TY80 Not bad for a very old bike

I agree with what your saying, but KTM would be just as likely to do as good in the trials world, dont forget plenty of people come into trials when they get to old for MX/enduro, KTM would have plenty of loyal riders that would happily take their KTM enduro back to the dealers and trade it in for a KTM trials bike. Im sure a Mick Adrews type person working at the KTM factory could quite easily put together a fairly good trials bike with a few mods to most of the bits that would be lying around.

Plenty of coverage, but is it helping to sell more enduro bikes? I could understand if they were trying to sell a 125 or 250 sports bike, but there not. If you want a 125 sports bike you buy an Aprilia, they are getting something out of GP's but KTM dont seem to be, the people that are really keen and have off road bikes arent sat at home watching the GP's on a Sunday, they are out on their bikes. Nothing sells sports bike better than some on track success, KTM are having some success but dont have a product to sell, what they do have is a very good reputation for making excellent off road bikes, it would be nice to see them use that and build a trials bike.

Why isnt it? For a bike to still be fully competative and still capable of winning British championship rounds in its class, 30yrs after it was first made. Is there another bike out there that has been as competative at that level for so long?

Dont see why not, there throwing enough money in 125 and 250 GP's for no real return, sucess on the race track cant be helping sell touring bikes or trail bikes can it?

Found this on Ebay here Be ok for a Shercow

This old advert says it all, lol.

Had a look online cant find the smarties but found this I suppose it would help when i fall off, it will camoflage the bike.

Any idea where i can get them from and how much. Ive been looking at a TY80 and it needs new tyres, just want to check there available before i commit. Thanks.

Yes they can be swapped, but they arent the same parts, you need the yolks as well, and i think you also have to do a mod with the wheel spacer.

First thing is do a search on this forum for 125/175 you will find loads of info. There was a link to a 175 manual posted on here recently that will help you. The 127/175 are indentical apart from barrel, piston head and some parts of the carb (float bowl is different and the jetting) the only parts interchangable with the 250 are handlebars, levers and tyres

There is one on Sunday 1st, see here

You could just count the riders in the results on the news feed on here, i know its not a true picture as many clubs dont put there results on but its a start.

If I pay the post and packaging, can I please have one of the 9 thats not going to Hawkstone.

Just had similar problems with mine, replaced points, condensor and coil (not sure which was the cause but i thought might as well replace the lot in one go to be on the safe side. Idiots guide: Take the flywheel off (you will need a flywheel puller) The condensor removes with 1 screw but you will need to solder the 3 wires to the new one. The points also remove with 1 screw, and 1 bolt holding the wire to them. The timing is a bit trickier, there is a timing mark on the flywheel, it should be in the smallest of the 2 holes on the flywheel, this will line up with a small plate inside at roughly the 7 o'clock position, when that lines up your points should be open, measure them with a feeler gauge, they should be betwen 0.30 and 0.40 mm, its a bit fiddly trying to set them right through the hole but just keep trying. Haynes manual will explain it a bit better, hope this helps.

We all read the posts on here, there seems to be a lot recently about which route, how hard, which class etc etc. Now take a step back and think how this might look to an outsider or newcommer to our sport, (i'm fairly new to this and it confuses me) Trials can have 1, 2 or 3 routes. The easy route can vary from easy for newcommers to easy for people with a few years experience. Score on easy routes can vary from 0 marks lost to around 180 marks lost (for some). The expert route can be very easy for some experts with the odd trial being won with no marks lost. If you score less than 5 marks the trial was to easy. If you score over 100 marks the trial was to hard. A trial is normaly 4 laps with 10 sections, or 3 laps of 14 sections, or 5 laps of 12 sections, or 1 lap of 40 sections or other variations. Routes are marked with flags of different colours. The colours of the flags vary, dont ever expect the colours to be the same at every trial you go to. In some trials you are not allowed to stop in sections In some trials you are allowed to stop in sections. There is a class for virtually everyone and every type of bike. When you enter a trial you can pick what class you want to enter. At some trials you will be eligble for at least 2 sometimes 4 classes depending on your age and bike. There is a special class for old British bikes. But if your old British bike was new in 1966 then your not aloud to enter that class. But if you have 5% of the parts of an old British bike then the rest of the bits can be bought new and thats allowed to enter. If your completly new to trials you are allowed to enter the SSDT as your first trial. A number plate on the back of your bike is legal only if its made from a 4inch square of yellow sticky back plastic and the reg number is wrote on with a black marker. Trials are held in hidden parts of the countryside, to find one you drive around for hours till you see a 4inch coloured plastic flag stuck in the grass near a junction. You need a licence from the ACU to be able to compete. No-one will ever ask to look at this licence. There is no grading system as in other sports, you can be a novice after 20yrs experience or an expert after 2 trials, you choose. When you buy a trials bike the most common question you will get asked is "where do you sit" The most common injuries you will get are to your knees and elbows from falling off. Knee and elbow pads are available but no-one wears them. Modern trials bikes are designed to perform tricks and get over obsticles that 90% of the people buying them will never be able to do. Some riders can ride upto a 2ft high step and ride over it without loosing a mark, some cant. Some riders will approach the same 2ft high step, bounce the bike from wheel to wheel, then sideways, then balance stationary before riding over it some of them then struggle to get over the step, some dont. Trials clothing is normaly bright coloured and tight fitting. Trials clothing would never be worn anywhere other than a trial. A flat cap, wellies and half a ciggarete hanging out your mouth used to be a popular way of riding sections. With the new smoking rules coming to England soon, it will be illegal to smoke in sections. Ok some are a joke but some are serious, im sure there are more but how do you explain the above to people not conected with this sport? And finaly, People that organise trials and people that observe sections are the life blood of this sport and we would be lost without them, thank you to you all.

The difference between extreme Moto x and normal is about the same as the world indoor and outdoor trials championships. Perhaps the hop skip and jump should become extreme trials (if it isnt already) and have different rules to normal trials.

125 Montesa 12hp, going off that i would say a new 250 would be around 20hp with 290-300's 25hp

No we dont, but if the weight of the bike was to be fixed then rider weight becomes an important part doesnt it? I suppose they would just start making bikes with more power for larger riders. The new 'Beta Rev 7' comes in 2 versions, the standard and the extra power 'fat boy' version lol.

Only 2 problems with that (well there probably more) 1st, why should a 16st rider be discriminated against, same bike 1 rider weighs 16st, 1 weighs 8st, which performs better. A fair way is bike and rider combined. 2nd, where are most clubs going to get a set of scales that will weigh a bike, where they going to keep them and who brings them to the trial, once they get there then you have to find a flat piece of land to put them on. I do like the idea though, but it would only really work in big events, that could have the facilitys. It would change a lot in the pre 65's though, set a weight limit near to what it actualy was back in those days that might stop all the trick bikes that bear no real relation to a genuine pre 65 bike.

If you want to go over the top and 'black' a few other bits this kit might help Metal blacking kit

Try HERE

Having just finished reading the 'Samy Miller' story i was wondering if there are any other books out there, i'm not bothered about the age, i quite like older stuff. Are there many or any more books out there on Trials or Trails riders, can anyone recomend anything?

Good luck with it Nick, let me know how it goes. If it hasnt put you off i'll see you at the Lakes Grass Track trial on Bank holiday monday. For a backpack with drinks bottle try here well worth