old trials fanatic

Isnt video games the problem ? As for the youth element being the future? dont be daft THEY AINT GOT ANY MONEY!!!! it's as usual always down to the bank of mum and dad to finance the idle buggers. I mean how many "youths" actually can be bothered to get a job? When i was 14 starting out trialing i had two paper rounds and a Saturday job at the local supermarket and had to do the paper round BEFORE we went to the trial on Sunday. All to pay for my Sprite. How many of these future saviours of our sport could be ar5ed to do that nowadays??? They wont get involved either as they are to used to being carried around by their soft touch overindulgent parents then expect the rest of society to carry on doing the same for the rest of their life. Get used to it the youth element, as far as trials having a future is concerned, are irrelevant. Once they start contributing both financially and in giving up their time then they may become relevant until then trials should concentrate on the over 40's if it wants a future.

Well finished laying out today and theres 4 laps of 11 sections awaiting your delectation tomorrow Thanks to Rob Mycock and Tony Sprinks for their assistance. The ground is very cold but as the sun catches the sections they seem to be thawing well. Nothing silly just nice flowing sections around the trees and banks at Clifton. See ya tomorrow

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yeah know what you mean. It's one of those daft rules that a LOT of riders dont seem to know about, or convieniently forget. I have never been a fan but thats probably because i was brought up on and rode for years "front spindle in front spindle out". When i started laying trials out one of my little foibles was to always put the ends cards at least one full bikes length beyond the last hazard if you know what i mean cos the situation you describe always used to wind me up. Suppose the logic is till your rear spindle is out of the section your bike is still in the section? I know it's logical but somehow doesnt seem right. LOL whatever as long as the observer marks everybody the same i suppose it's ok. Problem comes because we never seem to have enough observers and riders have to mark each other then which rule does each rider apply? Thats another reason i always try to put the ends cards a full bike length beyond the last hazard

This Sunday 15th sees the Peak Classic Trials Club hold their 12th and final round of the Club Championship for the 2011/2012 season. Incidentally this will also be the last trial run by the club under the auspices of the ACU as for the coming season they are changing affiliations to the AMCA. The course will be probably 4 laps of 11 sections and as usual there will be classes for British Bikes, Pre 85 Twinshocks and Pre 95 Air Cooled Monos with routes for Experts, Intermediate and Clubman. Entries close at the start which is 11.00am. Some of the championship titles are still undicided so competition for those final Championship points will be fierce. As usual we would really appreciate as many observers as we can get so if you fancy observing you will receive a warm welcome and a small reward for your time and trouble so please come along and join in. So hopefully see you on Sunday as one era comes to a close and a whole new one begins.

So i take it that Novice riders can run moto cross tyres ? Never knew that

"Not gaining a performance advantage" errr that EXACTLY what you are doing it for!

Perhaps scrutineering should be a regular occurance? Obviously you are correct though however putting my CoC hat on if somebody protested i would have to look into it and if found to be correct then i would have no choice but to take appropriate action. Not knocking the product as i personally think it's a good tool but the rulebook is quite clear on this. Perhaps in these economically challenging times the rule should be changed, which is another arguement, however at this moment in time it's illegal in competition.

As has been previously stated cutting or reshaping of tyre tread is not allowed. The ACU handbook is very specific about this. I would have thought you would have known that?

Best bet is to change the wheels altogether. In the day a lot of us used Talon wheels but might be easier to get 2nd hand GG etc.

And he should know.

Good luck youve picked what is argueably out of the most complicated bikes to make into a competitive trials bike. Hope youve got deep pockets.

We run 12 trials a year one each month as do most clubs in the EM Centre. Most weekends have at least 4 trials on some weekends more. Even been complaints that there are too many trials competing for the available entries.

Either Bantam or billet alloy copy.

??? whats an evo class

Good luck. Sounds just the ticket. Shame you are so far away but i wish you all sucess

Exactly

Think there are a lot, too many in fact, of those and there are a fair few who contribute on here reading past postings.

Now i'm NOT being negative to this post OK. Makes a lot of sense however do any of you guys out there ever give a thought to the 28 day rule???? The above scenario could easily lead to the loss of that land for competitive trials or at least severely reduce the number of competitive trials allowed that year. Do you also realise that when you set out on a Saturday that is also taken from the 28 days as is if you set out Friday and Saturday run the trial Sunday thats 3 days taken off the 28. Those are the rules now if a local authourity choose not to apply them then let sleeping dogs lie however sensitive sites attract the local NIMBYS who believe me have and do heavily petition local councils in an attempt to use any means to get access either refused or severely restricted. As i said i am NOT trying to be negative as the post has a lot going for it. A local training day had 60 people turn up and they couldnt get them all in so shows how it could work.

It only affects a small amount of people i.e. those that are riding the BTC as the ACU and lets not forget the AMCA have categorically NOT stated that clubs should run events to no stop. You, as a club, can run your trial to either set of rules so whats the problem? As for "dont you think it is a good idea to get new riders coming along" of course i do but why do you and others on here seem to think these "new riders" will be youths??? they may be but far more likely they will be older as the youth element hasnt got any money and will not stick at it once the bank of mum and dad has dried up. Yes they may come back at some point possably but the vast majourity of riders and potential new riders are older and have to go to work on Monday so they are the target for any growth or at least stability in trials entries. As for spit the dummy and your statement that no one has. Errr read the whole thread and i think you might just see what i am getting at. Anyway what is so hard about learning to ride no stop? surely everybody had to learn to ride stop? plus just ride at trials that dont run to no stop again wheres the problem? You suggested a stop should be a one. That was tried and failed. How about you have 10 seconds to complete a section and every second over that is one mark added to whatever marks you droped in the section??? you can stop in the section and bugger about if you like and 10 seconds is plenty long enough for a section.

:agreed: good on yer hit the nail on the head. Happy new year to you

Personally i agree with you Pete but think we will need a big skip for all the dummys that will be spit.

So one small rule change that will only affect a very small ammount of people and you spit the dummy? If they put an extra chicane in at your favourite track would you also pack in racing? of course in racing they never ever change any rule do they??? Sounds like a temper tantrum to me. As a matter of interest did you attend the ACU Trials seminar and put your point forward? Why not start a club, you can you know! , that will run trials to a rule book vince approves of? Nothing stopping you and you will get loads of advice and of course support from local riders

Hmmm whatever as long as they dont go back on that when you try to get an entry next year. I must admit i was wondering about the earlier reference to being a replica of a bike that won the 1965 British Experts especially seeing as the scottish event is "supposed" to be about bikes available prior to Dec 31st 1964. As i said earlier whatever. Not directed at you Woody but i can never understand why some people seem to think pre65 means 65 is still acceptable?