old trials fanatic

Biggest problem is this idea that Trials is a cheap for of Motorsport. There isnt a cheap form of Motorsport. If it's got wheels and an engine then it's never going to be cheap! Even Lawnmower racing isnt cheap. Nothing is. Why should trials be any difference. Ever priced up fishing? I was talking to my accountant the other day, he happens to be a trials rider also, he told me my biggest problem with my business plan was that i was trying to make a living selling stuff to trials riders Worse thing is he's right

OK youve had loads of advice so far and all of it is valid but i will now ask YOU a question that nobody else has seemed to bother with and this comes from experience not just mine but that of a lot of our club members. What type of trials do you want to ride?? You say you are an old beginner? I assume then that like the rest of us who are a "certain age" you dont heal as quickly as you used to? your confidence and commitment may not be as a 30 year old or younger? Yes a "modern" bike may be easier to ride but where are you going to ride it and what are the sections like that you will have to attempt? There are more and more "Classic" clubs and "Classic" type trials where you and your twinshock, should you take that route, will have a great time with far less chance of injury than you would at a "modern" event. A lot of "modern" events offer "easy" routes but make sure that these "easy" routes are what you will enjoy riding and have not just been included so that you subsidise the modern riders. Very few "Classic" clubs will allow a modern bike to ride. So you get the modern bike for low maintenance, dont buy that arguement personally but whatever, easy to ride, dont buy into that either but also whatever, but then find you may not be able to enter the sort of event you want to ride in. I and many others find the atmosphere at "Classic" clubs, by that i mean twinshock and Pre65, much more friendly and more enjoyable. Others may argue against that but experience tells me otherwise. You are perhaps right not to go the Pre65 route but Trials isnt just about the bike you ride it's also about where you will ride it, what sort of sections you will encounter and who you want to ride with. Look at the bigger picture. Dont just dismiss twinshocks, which incidentally are the only arm of the sport that is growing at the moment i wonder why ????, for the wrong reasons. Go to a "Classic" event and then make a choice. Incidentally i sold a really nice TY250 twinshock last Sunday to a guy who had bought a brand new Gas Gas, again advice from others low maintenance easy to ride blah blah blah, he loved the bike but hated the first two trials, modern clubs BTW, he entered and when he came to our event as a spestator to see what it was like turned to his wife and said "this is it this is what i wanted to ride". That sealed it and he bought the TY on the spot. Now he's got a nearly new Gas Gas only two trials old thats lost over 30%, if he's lucky, to get rid of. On the possitive side he's now got a twinshock that will only ever appreciate in value and he can enjoy it while it appreciates. Think long and hard before you decide. Your choice.

You might have more sucess posting this in the Fantic section ?

Sunday 16th Jan and the final round of the Peak Classic Trials Clubs Championship for the 2010 / 2011 trials season and the sun shone on the riders at Clifton near Ashbourne, Derbyshire. The forecast rain hadn

Sounds ignition related to me.

It was details about just everything to make a Bantam competitive.

At the risk of annoying some Alan Whitton, other suppliers also exist, does Billet yokes with various offsets to take 35mm stantions. Last ones i bought were

Now somebody very kindly sent me a wad of details they had compiled over the years about how to make a Bantam work well. Guess what? she who thinks she must be obeyed has been tidying up and i'll be damned if i can find it. As i'm also a bit divvy at the mo i cant remember the name of the kind man who sent it to me so i'm hoping he or somebody else could help ? Thanks oh i do feel stupid

Forget about Scotland cross that bridge if ever you come to it. Scotland is a one off basically by invitation only event that has it's own set of rules and eligability criteria and you dont build a bike just in case you are ever "lucky" enough, hundreds arent every year, to be allowed to ride in their trial. Just build a bike as economically in the spirit of the 60's as you can and ride it. Ossa forks and Montesa yokes or even Ossa ones will do as will wheels. Just dont use any Jap forks that are too long or the sliders project below the spindle. As long as you dont take the pi55 you'll be fine. Until you start winning that is LOL

Does anybody know if the crank and cases from a TY250A are interchangeable with later ones like a TY250B or C ? I know the clutch and clutch cover are different but dont know if the rest is different or interchangeable.

Thanks for that.

I seem to remember seeing a weblink on here once upon a time to a site that lists all the engine and frame numbers so you can identify the correct model of TY but i'm darned if i can find it now. Anybody got any ideas?

Think you'll find most Classic Clubs in the East Midlands Centre, apart from us, like the pinch bolts between the stantions like Montesa not outside the stantions like OSSA. Load of cobblers really but thats the way it is. Then again as always nobody will say anything unless you start winning.

You could always buy a Twinshock. Nil depreciation and very forgiving to a Novice plus you can also ride at "Classic Trials" which have much more Novice friendly sections. Worth a second thought.

As long as they ride to Non Stop rules dont see a problem however in my experience the kids (anybody under 40) dont seem to know how to ride non stop and just try to ride as they do in other events. Be interesting to see if anybody gets penalised this year for "cocking about" i'm told the modern vernacular is. All in all i'm in favour of young, under 40, entrants without which the sport will wither and die. But they must adhere to Non Stop rules (pet gripe of mine).

If you want to do it legally then you will probably end up with a Q plate. Not even sure the frame needs a number just have to comply with mot regs as you will need an m.o.t. If the m.o.t. station demands the frame has a number then stamp 0001 on it. However best way i know is buy a frame c/w logbook and transfer the frame number then get the engine changed with DVLA and you have an age related plate just get it m.o.t'd and off you go. Remember replacement frames didnt have a frame number from the factory. Neither did new crankcases mostly so dealers just stamped the frame number on that they were replacing. No doubt somebody will tell me i'm totally wrong but i know it's worked for many so far.

Welcome to the fold. Theyre a good bunch on here, dont tell them i said so, but you might need a thick skin sometimes. Feel free to ask away cos theres alway somebody who can help just dont take everthing as gospel well apart from my posts anyway. Need more women in Trials.

I havent had a problem with the Betor Pro or the Betor Expert (steel bodied) shock and none that i have sold have come back so might just be a rouge one. Doesnt sound too good from a customer support point of view though. OK i know they are a budget shock but

Would have thought this post should have been in the Air cooled monos section or just filed in Beta ?????? Sure one of the moderators will oblige.

Size 11 would be a 46 but best if you try them on cos some are more generous on width than others.

Think i'd sooner clean the oven than watch even more of my tax and NI subs wasted on that bunch of parasites. Surprised there arent more events being organised

Me too Woody. Perhaps it's a bit like Faber frames for B40's Perhaps somebodys bought one ?

With you on that one Bo. French had the right idea. Pete perhaps you should organise an "alternative Scottish Pre 65 two day event" specially for all those who didnt get a ride. Dont forget to have a ballot though and all riders from Yorkshire MUST have fork gaitors LOL