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Beg to differ here. I have had problems with one tyre dropping back into the bead in the past but not with my latest new tyre - 3 or 4psi tubeless tyre on tubed rim with 2 security bolts - no problem at all. Try leaving the tyre overnight or even longer blown up with a tube in it before you try fitting it on to the rim, this seems to force the bead out.
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Take the time to get to the end and the punch
line
40 degrees - Californians shiver uncontrollably.
People in Scotland sunbathe.
35 degrees - Italian cars won't start.
People in Scotland drive with the windows down.
20 degrees - Floridians wear coats, gloves, and wool hats. People
in
Scotland throw on shorts and a T-shirt.
15 degrees - Californians begin to evacuate the state.
People in Scotland go swimming in the sea.
0 degrees - New York landlords turn the heat on.
People in Scotland have a last barbi before it gets cold.
MINUS-10 degrees - People in Miami are
extinct.
People in Scotland lick flagpoles.
MINUS-20 degrees - Californians all now live in Mexico.
People in Scotland throw on a light jacket.
MINUS-80 degrees - Polar bears begin to evacuate the Artic.
Scottish Boy Scouts postpone winter survival exercise until it
gets cold enough.
MINUS-100 degrees - Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
People in Scotland wear a vest and pull down their ear flaps.
MINUS-173 degrees - Ethyl alcohol freezes.
People in Scotland get angry 'cos they can't thaw their whisky..
MINUS-297 degrees - Microbial life starts to grind to a halt.
Scottish cows complain
of farmers with cold hands.
MINUS-460 degrees - ALL atomic motion stops.
People in Scotland start saying " A bit hill billy ... eh? "
MINUS-500 degrees - Hell freezes over.
Scottish people support England in the World Cup
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Then again I would be very surprised if Gavin did not finish well up the results in a trial on your G3 if you loaned it to him.
Perhaps he is open to sponsorship John?
A rider of his calibre on a 'standard' P65 bike would surprise many of the owners of super trick 'P65' bikes.
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Send me a list of the parts you are looking for I have a copy of the 250 microfiche (on microfiche unfortunately) along with the TLR200 one. I will try to help - hopefully you are not looking for everything.
For the tLR200 and XR200 part numbers you are best to look at a couple of US sites , Ronayres and powersportspro. I dont have the links to hand but have a browse through previous posts.
Gordon
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John
I confirm this is the case - I cant be bothered sending off for a tube type tyre & paying a fortune for postage - hence I buy tubeless ones locally.
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Have seen some 19" wheeled trials bikes with speedway Barums, these are not trials tyres persae but have a very similar pattern and will look the part if the bike is to be ridden or shown at a vintage rally. Dont expect the same grip as a 2006 Michelin/Dunlop or similar but then again when your bike was new radials were a figment of a tyre designers imagination and most riders probably used what they could find.
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With TLR250 shocks being 20mm longer than 200 shocks i wonder how much of a difference fitting 250 shocks would make compared to moving mounts?
If I could remember trignometry properly I could work out the effect.
As far as power goes I have tried a Scorpa 143 (refuse to call a 143cc bike a 175!) and found it felt less powerfull than 250 - perhaps this was because you had to rev it more, it may well have been 'in my mind'.
I have tried a 200 and it is similar to the Scorpa in that it feels like you have to rev it to get anywhere but seemed to have more than enough power for me.
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I have the forks flush with the yokes on one of my bikes, I felt the loss in ground clearance with raising the forks in the yokes by 10-15mm was too much. One bike has RTL250 forks, these are shorter than TLR forks and to be honest I prefer the TLR forks.
I am currently using 5wt oil on both my 250's - nice soft action.
Gordon
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That is an S90 Honda with a large back sprocket ie geared down - same basic bike as the one at P65 SSDT.
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The S90 was an excellent bike in its day (1964 ie pre 65), 90cc OHC engine, 4 speed if my memory serves me well with a proper clutch. Rare to see one on the road or at a classic bike rally now.
There was a similar pushrod bike in the same era CM90E !, this had leadind link forks rather than tele forks.
I had one of both when I was a kid.
The C90 and C90cub bikes which are still common today are basically the same motor as S90, bit less power probably and a centrifugal clutch with 3 gears.
Nice to see a different bike in the P65, bet it was allowed to use a kehin carb!
Just a thought, get an old S90, fit a 125 or 150 bore/stroke kit you can buy for a monkey bike (same basic motor), modify the forks and fit 21/18" wheels and you may have a competetive P65 bike? - still in the spirit of P65 - have a look at all the cubs, overbored triumph twins etc all using jap pistons.
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The Honda is a pre65 bike!
I never had a good look at - it naever made the top of pipeline but I think its an S90 (how do I know I had one when I was 14!)
http://powersports.honda.com/the_story/her..._Model_0084.asp
Nice to see something different competing from numerous cubs etc.
Any idea of a leaderboard after day one?
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There is one doing the rounds in the car park at th P65 today - everyone and his dog seemed to be trying it - looked and sounded ok.
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what time is 1st man away on Friday and saturday?
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Just rebuit a 200 engine and tried starting it without fitting the decompressor cable - plenty compression but NOT a hard bike to kick over.
If I decide to keep the 200 the valve lifter might become a manual affair but I doubt very much whether I will bother with the auto system - I removed it off my two 250's (it was the first thing i did to them) and fitted a manual system - great for starting the bike rolling down hill.
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A good rider can make any bike competetive in a club trial.
A new twinshock would be competetive in a TS trial.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-REFLEX-TLR-TLR...QcategoryZ36796
with over 4 days to go a USED set of TLR mudguards is currently standing at
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An RTL was made as a trials bike - trials are for riding on trials bikes - I guess the answer to your question is RIDE IT.
There is no rule saying that you must have a modern bike to ride in a trial.
A good rider would be competetive on an RTL in most club trials.
Perhaps if I was capable to ride the expert route than an RTL way not be the most suitable bike but it would certianly look and sound better (and be more reliable than a Gas Gas / Beta or Sherco!)
If you have an RTL and dont think there is anything you can do with it anymore please give it to me!
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John being a man in the know doies this mean that Mr B. is upgraded from novice?
If so can I be first tpo congratulate him!
Well done Mr B!!!!
Bodes well for the P65 Scottish I hope!
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Thats the weight quoted by Honda in their manual
Judging by the farcical weights the Japs used to quote for road bikes (aka dry weight = weight of bike with no fluids and probably helium in tyres)
The real weight is highly likly to be more than this
Interestingly they quote 88kg for the 250!
Whatever it is its HEAVY !
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http://www.ronayers.com
and
http://www.powersportspro.com/partsfish
Both have TLR200 Reflex microfiche online
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Yes
Glad to hear you are back in civilisation again after your foreign 'holiday in the sun'
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Mr B
Barras as far as I am aware is South East of Stonehaven. There are a number of 'Barras' farms in this area, between the A90 and A92 at Catterline.
I am guessing here but expect that the trial will be signposted off the A90?
Gordon
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What is the point of buying it if you are not going to use it - its a trials bike not an ornament!
Even most vintage and veteran road bikes get used a little as do many classic road race bikes - even if its only in parades. As for trials bikes and scrambles bikes they were made to be trialed or raced.
Very few people are interested in 'classic' trials bikes - especially those made after 1965. Polish it up and park it at a vintage rally next to something as mundane as a rusty and oily BSA bantam and guess what - 99% of people will be looking at the Bantam and ignore the Yamaha.
Each to their own I guess but to just use a competetive trials bike as an ornament is pointless - yes the pinky is old but it is still competedtive in club trials in the right hands. Then agin perhaps the buyer has decided that he/she is better paying
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The TLR200 front sprocket is usually located with a 'locator plate' which is bolted on to the sprocket. As anyone who has a TLR200 knows who has a smaller than standard sprocket fitted this no longer works.
I know that to get round this a spacer is used behind the sprocket and a circlip is used to hold the sprocket in place. The 250 has a circlip both behind and in front of the sprocket.
Farleys or Appleyards probably sell the spacer BUT can anyone give me a description OR better still dimensions.
I am in the middle of rebuilding a 200 motor and would like to check the sprocket fitting method - on this bike its basically a large diameter washer.
I am planning to make up a new spacer to suit but if someone can give me the 'correct' dimensions it will save a bit of playing about.
Gordon
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What are the 'trick' mods for a TLR200?
I have a reasonable idea what others do with 250's but whats the latest engine tricks for the 200's?
Gordon
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