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April fools ?

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What a pointless thread

Had exactly the same problem a couple of years ago with a brand new Dellorto Carb . Inmotion Sent out a replacement FOC , Problem solved

Football is a multi million pound sport . Trials is a poor mans sport . All things in Perspective.

£60 for two Adults and Two Kids to get in ???? and this is a DISCOUNTED rate ? + Parking ??? You want to get the crowds back at World Trials ? Good Luck With That One .

Start up Grant from Government .......

It's called Reticulated Foam . Get it from Tropical Fish Shops

Agreed. it's just a shame that the no stop rule leaves itself open to more observer discretion , which could effect the result of the top 5 % . I really hope it doesn't .

Not like i do now , but i fail to see the relevance to this topic . I don't really mind what set of rules we run by ( no stop or stop allowed ) as long as the rules are enforced so that everyone is clear on what to do .

Maybe if the rules were enforced as they should be , the sections wouldn't have to be so severe ? The SSDT will always be oversubscribed no matter what the rules or how severe the sections are . It is every trials riders dream to ride the SSDT.

So if enforcing the current rules results in riders failing 20 out of 30 sections a day then so be it . That would suggest that the sections are too hard for 2/3 of the entry , if the rules are correctly implemented ?

I don't think being consistent is the issue here . The trial is being run under No Stop rules , these rules should be enforced to the letter , otherwise they are open to abuse . This is a National Trial , arguably the Biggest Trial in the World . We need to stick to the RULES ! I have a massive respect for all observers , it's just a shame that the no stop rule is so hard to enforce and observe . We are scaring observers away from our sport since no stop was re-introduced , and if this continues no-one will want to observe and we will have no sport.

Once again this highlights how difficult observing is under the no stop rules . Clearly he stopped , clearly he went backwards . Observer will get criticised whatever the decision . Not at all good for the sport. No Stop and Bad Observing Decisions are ruining trials .

https://twitter.com/top_trial_team/status/418096508282499072/photo/1

To be fair Steve , my section was not tight and could be ridden without stopping , it was a tough section for the clubmen and pre 65's , if a guy gets stuck on a log , both feet down , pushing till his eyes are popping out (momentarily stopping) should i five him ? or let him have a three for effort ? and what about the youngsters who need all the encouragement they can get ? You've got to use a bit of common sense , whatever the rules are. By the way , i do mark everyone the same .

I observed the same way as every other observer in that club did , does and always will. I used common sense. No-stop is almost impossible to mark consistantly , that is probably what is causing said arguments and putting people off observing. By the way , down here in the south we have lots of problems getting enough people to observe , and if the observers job becomes more difficult as it has in my opinion , then that situation will only get worse. Getting back on topic , i have recently spoken to a few of the best riders in the country and every one of them without exception totally dislikes the no-stop rules . But what do they know ?

Old Trials Fanatic , are you sure thats the reason why every club is struggling to get observers ? Of the last 3 trials i've attended , i have observed at 2 and ridden in 1 . The 2 that i observed at had a full compliment of observers and i didn't hear of any observer receiving any abuse . The trial i rode in had 16 sections and probably about 4 sections were self observed , Any abuse to observers ? Nope. By the way , from my recent experience , if i marked everyone to the letter of the 'no-stop' law , most riders would have fived my section at some point. But i didn't 5 anyone for stopping because i think the no-stop rules are OUTDATED , DANGEROUS , and IMPOSSIBLE to observe correctly. And did i get any abuse ? Nope . But what i did get were lots of smiling happy riders , thanking me for observing.

Ben Hemingway's Twitter Tweet :- Bloody non-stop is dangerous !!pic.twitter.com/4NhLTrRr

Winner of the trial James Dabill had this to say shortly after on twitter :- " Well even though i was happy with the win yesterday no stop still sucks!! "

This i believe, is what happened in the 80's , at least one of the tyre manufacturers were making softer compound tyres in the same moulds as the ones being sold to the public , resulting in the top riders having softer more grippy tyres. Is this what you want ?

There is already a national championship that caters for no stop on older bikes , the normandale traditional trials championship.

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Unless the rules (whatever they are) are enforced correctly the championship (be it btc/S3 etc) will have little or no credability.