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Just seen this on Face book
Very happy that Vertigo UK is open and ready to take orders for the new Combat £5750 01756 611995 info@vertigomotors.co.uk
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Had exactly the same problem a couple of years ago with a brand new Dellorto Carb . Inmotion Sent out a replacement FOC , Problem solved
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Football is a multi million pound sport . Trials is a poor mans sport . All things in Perspective.
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£60 for two Adults and Two Kids to get in ???? and this is a DISCOUNTED rate ? + Parking ??? You want to get the crowds back at World Trials ? Good Luck With That One .
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Start up Grant from Government .......
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It's called Reticulated Foam . Get it from Tropical Fish Shops
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Agreed. it's just a shame that the no stop rule leaves itself open to more observer discretion , which could effect the result of the top 5 % . I really hope it doesn't .
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Not like i do now , but i fail to see the relevance to this topic .
I don't really mind what set of rules we run by ( no stop or stop allowed ) as long as the rules are enforced so that everyone is clear on what to do .
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Maybe if the rules were enforced as they should be , the sections wouldn't have to be so severe ?
The SSDT will always be oversubscribed no matter what the rules or how severe the sections are .
It is every trials riders dream to ride the SSDT.
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So if enforcing the current rules results in riders failing 20 out of 30 sections a day then so be it .
That would suggest that the sections are too hard for 2/3 of the entry , if the rules are correctly implemented ?
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I don't think being consistent is the issue here . The trial is being run under No Stop rules , these rules should be enforced to the letter , otherwise they are open to abuse . This is a National Trial , arguably the Biggest Trial in the World . We need to stick to the RULES !
I have a massive respect for all observers , it's just a shame that the no stop rule is so hard to enforce and observe .
We are scaring observers away from our sport since no stop was re-introduced , and if this continues no-one will want to observe and we will have no sport.
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Once again this highlights how difficult observing is under the no stop rules .
Clearly he stopped , clearly he went backwards .
Observer will get criticised whatever the decision .
Not at all good for the sport.
No Stop and Bad Observing Decisions are ruining trials .
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https://twitter.com/top_trial_team/status/418096508282499072/photo/1
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To be fair Steve , my section was not tight and could be ridden without stopping , it was a tough section for the clubmen and pre 65's , if a guy gets stuck on a log , both feet down , pushing till his eyes are popping out (momentarily stopping) should i five him ? or let him have a three for effort ? and what about the youngsters who need all the encouragement they can get ? You've got to use a bit of common sense , whatever the rules are.
By the way , i do mark everyone the same .
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I observed the same way as every other observer in that club did , does and always will. I used common sense. No-stop is almost impossible to mark consistantly , that is probably what is causing said arguments and putting people off observing.
By the way , down here in the south we have lots of problems getting enough people to observe , and if the observers job becomes more difficult as it has in my opinion , then that situation will only get worse.
Getting back on topic , i have recently spoken to a few of the best riders in the country and every one of them without exception totally dislikes the no-stop rules .
But what do they know ?
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Old Trials Fanatic , are you sure thats the reason why every club is struggling to get observers ? Of the last 3 trials i've attended , i have observed at 2 and ridden in 1 . The 2 that i observed at had a full compliment of observers and i didn't hear of any observer receiving any abuse .
The trial i rode in had 16 sections and probably about 4 sections were self observed , Any abuse to observers ? Nope.
By the way , from my recent experience , if i marked everyone to the letter of the 'no-stop' law , most riders would have fived my section at some point. But i didn't 5 anyone for stopping because i think the no-stop rules are OUTDATED , DANGEROUS , and IMPOSSIBLE to observe correctly.
And did i get any abuse ? Nope .
But what i did get were lots of smiling happy riders , thanking me for observing.
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Ben Hemingway's Twitter Tweet :-
Bloody non-stop is dangerous !!pic.twitter.com/4NhLTrRr
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Winner of the trial James Dabill had this to say shortly after on twitter :-
" Well even though i was happy with the win yesterday no stop still sucks!! "
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This i believe, is what happened in the 80's , at least one of the tyre manufacturers were making softer compound tyres in the same moulds as the ones being sold to the public , resulting in the top riders having softer more grippy tyres.
Is this what you want ?
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There is already a national championship that caters for no stop on older bikes , the normandale traditional trials championship.
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18 video's from section 37 at the Wallace Cup 2012
Search youtube for my channel motorcycleemptyness1
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Unless the rules (whatever they are) are enforced correctly the championship (be it btc/S3 etc) will have little or no credability.
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