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Great for Alex yes but I think the WTC would be more balanced if TRW ploughed there money into sherco, gas gas or scorpa. Beta have TTT and Honda are doing well enough with their own team which is hardly short of cash ! why did TRW pick the Montesa ? They make lots of trick parts for the Mont but how many people have bought some TRW kit,just out of interest ? if the same amount was invested in a production Gas Gas or Sherco how good would it be ? My view, and its just an opinion, is that comparing the standard bikes the Gas Gas or the Sherco is more competitive.

Try this Brian, but it has limited info http://perso.orange.fr/enduro/trial/

Hi Folks I'm thinking of riding one of the above trials next year as I can t get to the SSDT. I'm thinking of making it a family holiday though and taking Mrs Baldilocks and the kids along then staying elsewhere in France for another week after the trial. Does anyone know if there is Bed and Breakfast or Hotel accomodation near either event as I dont fancy trying to persuade Mrs Baldilocks and the kids to sleep in a transit for the first week ! cheers

Zippy check that the pad is floating freely on the slit pins or bolt that retains the pad in the caliper. They can stick, I recently had this problem, and couldnt understand how I had pressure at the lever but the bike wasnt stopping very well, either clean up the pin / bolt with sandpaper or file the hole out a little in the pad. Ned you could be onto something there mate, Ive notced before that one edge of the rear pads wears faster than the other, dont know if its the leading or trailing edge. Also I was looking at the rear disc on a Gas Gas yesterday and that has cutaways on the inside edge of the disc. Perhaps they were designed like that as at one time the FIM banned wavy discs ?

Mulder and Scully......... or perhaps Ant and Dec. On seperate note and not connected to Copemechs question I see those technological / manufacturing halfwits the Chinese put another rocket into space today and plan to have a man on the moon and possibly a take away within 10 years ! of course they couldnt possibly make somthing as advanced as a trials bike Could they ?

Ned heres another experiment for you. find someone with an 07 sherco with wavy discs, under light braking you can feel a slight pulsing on the lever as the disc rotates. This I think is the effect of the reduced circumference part in the outside edge of the disc passing through the pads. Although the disc is flat the pressure applied must force the top edge of the pad to close when the reduced circumference passes through and the disc will then force the pad apart again as the wider (greater circumference not disc width) part passes through the pads. now do the same thing on a 4rt and you get the same pulsing effect. except the 4rt has cutaways, its not a wavy disc. I'm quite happy to admit I'm wrong if you can explain the above, its just my theory that the cutaways act like an edge on a wavy disc. cheers

Sorry Copemech that could be true but I can t see anyone with friends in the trade or connected to a current brand coming out and saying the Xispa is good , can you ? I think most xispa comments probably need a shovel rather than a pinch of salt until a production bike arrives. Where did this "test ride" take place anyway ? area 51 ?

Can you explain how Fujigas riding around was an advantage to any rider. I witnessed plenty of people helping riders with the choice of line in sections, but this wasn't limited to the top riders. I don't know the rules regarding changing of wheels, but if it breaks the rules then it should be penalised. As regards the statement regarding fresh bikes, I think that is a load of rubbish. If it is true name and shame. If fuji and other good riders present but not competing are equally helpful to all then fine but its not in the spirit of the event. Did fuji point out any lines to Graham Jarvis ? Also lots of people shout out lines to you when your riding the Scott but some peoples advice is worth a lot more. Ie John Shirt or Kinell who would you listen to for directions Cota Kid ? do you think fuji, shirty and co would be hangin around to advise us ? as regards spare wheels how many ptrivateers have one and someone prepared to chase them round the fuel checks ? its all academic really, as Perce says and I agree, you cant effectively police the Scott.

has wiggy signed for anyone next year ? what a great rumour...

Your both right, top lads have enough advantage already without having outriders such as fuji kicking about and then spare wheels available but as Perce said you need an awful lot of marshalls to stop this on the scott course.

Ive put a drain on my air filter box using a non return valve from a petrol breather tube. I drilled the airbox and fitted a tyre valve then put some petrol pipe on the end of it and a non return valve on the end of the pipe which sits in the back of the sump plate. The valve wont allow muck to get sucked in but will let water out. Handy if its tipping down with rain and the rivers are full as it lets water out if it gets past the filter. Copemech is right though , you need to clean the filter box after every ride.

what? you do realise that the discs are flat and there is no edge for them to bite on? grip a Gas Gas or mont disc between finger and thumb and slowly spin the wheel until you find the edge, yes the disc is flat but the large cutaway creates an effect like an edge as it passes through the pads. then report to detention to write up your findings

Paul Battensby got round I'm presuming in time but I dont know. as he said not bas for an old man !

I think the gas gas and monts have shapes machined out rather than holes. The shapes act a little like a wavy disc so that the pad is always biting on an edge rather than a smooth surface. I dont think you will get the same effect from just drilling holes but you could just buy a disc of another make of bike as all the hubs are AJP anyway. I have seen Shercos with Beta front discs fitted.

Another tip go and knock his windows out . the Pinky was introduced in 1991 so you may have a white frame TYR or its actually a 1991 model. If its a front disc brake mounted directly onto the fork leg it will be a pinky an absolutely belting bike whichever model it is

Blame Jordi Tarres, first bloke I saw in a one piece suit. I got one for nowt, I look like i'm carrying a wok up me jumper ! never wore it at a trial

I dont think its cool at all. Last time it was posted on here I asked for it to be removed. No foot wheelies past a lady pushing a pram ? dont you think our image is bad enough without posting this ?? how far is this away from tearing around a council estate on a mini moto ? doesn't show our sport in a good light although it is skillful.

Two things stand out reading this thread 1 We should have a single set of rules I think, and i dont mind being corrected, that under the old no stop rules the sump on a rock with the engine stalled has to be a five as regardless of the stall the bike will have stopped. Generally the stall was deemed as a five as the bike would stop. Under old stop allowed rules it actually isnt a five. In those days there was one set of rules for all events and heres two examples I can remember. Woody Hole during the ssdt one year had the chain come off. The bike was wedged / balanced anyway and he managed to refit the chain without touching the ground and rode off, he didnt get a five. Other examples of repairs include Donato Miglio refitting the throttle cable which had come out of the domino twistgrip housing during a world round, again it wasnt a five. Both examples are ludicrous in my view, but balancing on a rock with the sump wasnt a five as far as I know. under the FIM every stop is a one rules a stall is a five, the rules also mention taking your hand off the handlebar is a five. The problem with all this is that riders and observers probably don t read the rules so just as Ive done here examples of good and bad observing get interpreted as being the rules. Now at this hypothetical club trial we are discussing what set of rules are being applied ?? 2 Observers and riders need to accept that both parties can make an error, we cannot all be right all of the time. Riders also need to be aware that however difficult the observer may seem to you he / she is still the observer. No Observer No Trials ! As Eiger implied observers need to be treated with respect.

Yes I realise that BUT local authorities in our neck of the woods are having problems with kids on mini motos flying around any open space they can find. Warden Law is a good example of a facility that works for the local authority (as it gives the kids somewhere to ride) and the motorcycle community. Why not try to get planning permission on that basis ? or on the non permanent basis, even if it was only used once a month it would be worth it. Guisborough club have a legitimate practice facility I believe, and theres a quad track with some trial sections near Sedgefield. But North Tyneside, South Tyneside and Northumberland have nothing that I'm aware of. Instead of typing on here I'll try somthing with the NE ACU / clubs and maybe contact a council planner I happen to know from some advice

Are planning on joining me at NASA like Kirk ? talk to Martin Phillipson, he should know a thing or two about Betas

would it be different if she rode a Beta CK ? come on montesa won indoor and outdoor in the mens !

how about making it quiet

Hi Gordon do Derwentside council actually own castleside ? It irks me that our centre hasnt the funds to buy or lease the place or somewhere similar. We (me included) dont seem to have learned anything since the last outbreak of F&M and consequently may be spending this winter in Buttsfield !

The problem is the bearing Ham not the crankcase. New sherco's come with sealed bearings now so the oil gallery mod is now redundant really spend and extra