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If you are new to the sport, I would suggest you get yourself a nice 250 2 stroke and practice practice practice. I know quite a few people who have tried the 4rt and struggled whereas most guys will jump on a 250 gasgas beta sherco and just get on with it. Once you have the basics mastered then think about how the bike is holding you back but a 2T won't ! Good luck

Would a 2 stroke engine meet the road requirements of the USA ?

Also,from a previous post regarding a possible redesign due to supplier change, KTM would easily have the resources to tinker with a few components on a Trials bike and in any case the 'relaunch' would coincide with 2016 models. Can you imagine a Gasgas in black as per Raga's current bike to capitalise on a superb season. Well I for one have my fingers crossed !

How else did you imagine the rack would fit ? It looks perfect to me, did D.C. supply the bolts, if not I assume since they are cap head they are high tensile ? Never had a problem with D.Cooper, he is not a multi-national manufacturer so you can't expect him to hold vast stocks of every product he makes so next time order in advance.

Beta is in Italy and they are probably the largest U.K Trials supplier now ? China is probably the largest potential component supplier if properly handled. Marzocchi have already got problems. Gasgas with KTM would seem a perfect step forward provided the Gasgas name continued for brand loyalty, does KTM really need the Spanish manufacturing base, I assume they already have competent suppliers in place. Looking forward to some exciting news.

How many 125's are there at any round ? Only looks like half a dozen at the U.K. event, so where are all the keen youngsters or like all 'Extreme' sports are the World rounds just a bit too much ?

You have a superb place to ride, I would suggest you take a riding partner with you as even the simplest practice can turn into an accident, just because trials is slow it does not make it risk free. Sorry to sound like your Mum but it can happen very quickly where you slide off with the bike on top of you or leg caught under it. Your video gives the impression of being miles from help if it goes wrong and anyway it is always better to spark off a riding buddy to push your technique. Lecture over, enjoy your day off !

It depends on what you are comparing it with, as a brake from the period I do not remember it being criticised, compared with a modern front disc, well you know the answer ! One easy trick for an old brake drum / shoe combination is always hold the front brake on with a bungee or similar around the brake lever when tightening the front wheel spindle , this helps to ensure the assembly is centralised and both shoes are in contact when the brake is operated.

My apologies in advance for not watching all of your clips, I skipped through the first two and you have a super place to ride but you are not riding trials ! This is the type of riding we do between sections, check out some event videos or better still go to an event ( of course you may not be near to one, but having purchased the bike from somewhere someone must be able to get you into the sport properly ) Hope you continue to enjoy learning on your new bike but you have not experienced 'Trials' yet.

What is the clutch mod ? Is that not a reservoir for the rear shock ?

What is the clutch mod ? Is that not a reservoir for the rear shock ?

Just as important as the fuel injection is the way the rod is attached to the crank via an extra link. I have not drawn it out but does this affect the way the piston rises and falls to give more time for getting fuel in and exhaust out or changing the way compression works for diesel fuel ? There is a circular drawing showing the fueling cycle, it would be interesting to see a similar version for a standard crank / rod set up.

Were you riding 'pre trick' ie did you hop the front or did you rely on old fashioned steering ? If you are into steering I would try before you buy as in my experience the steering lock on these bikes is not as good as a GasGas or Beta. As far as power is concerned there will be plenty while you get re acquainted with the sport, better to not have enough than be put off with the bike riding you ! Can't help with pricing as you are in $ and I am in £ Good luck

I think the question is will the ignition suffer due to the welding not will the weld work. To be safe I would always remove electrical components if using an electric welder, far cheaper to be safe than sorry.

Reading the last few posts about extreme revving in first gear and I think I will stick with my gasgas 300 I did try a 4rt back in 07 for about 9 months and found the steering, suspension and brakes the best, but that engine I could not master, not enough response to control the front wheel and no grip on greasy banks at all. You do not see many (any) being ridden down here in the mud at a good level, just because you have a Honda does not make you Toni Bou.

Finding grip on a 4rt is an acquired technique, Raga300 does it for you ! Some ride them well, but where grip in mud is the issue I find most if not all of the better riders are on 2T Keep trying it will probably take a good 6 months to crack it, all the advice from fellow riders will not necessarily work you need to practice and find what works for you. Good luck

We already have a starting system to lessen the queues, you start at the second number of your riding number so rider number 27 goes and starts at section 7, No 34 goes to No 4 etc. But it only works if the course allows as you obviously cannot ride through a section to get to your start point. It works very well, the only downside is if the Cof C needs to modify the course to either toughen it up, due to it ending up being easier to ride, or slacken it off, due to the weather, he doesn't know where all of the entry is. The plus side is all of the event starts at say 10.30, so all observers have customers and then it is all over probably an hour earlier , in the winter a good point from the observers point of view.

Any news ? Will she rise from the ashes ? Having ridden Gassers for so long I cannot imagine trials without one. (My 2014 is mint but what to do next ?)

A super looking bike but take some advice on softening it off as both the 270 and 280 were more of an experts bike rather than a novice's. Slow throttle grip to start would be an easy fix, otherwise you may end up having your arms pulled out of your shoulders after a couple of hours practice ! Or just man up and enjoy it

There are plenty of riders down here in the south east of England, but competitors is another question. If we run a practice day 60 to 80 riders will turn up,often on recent bikes with all the gear, but put on a proper trial and you are down to 30 to 40 and they will be mostly different guys. If you have a 10 section 4 lap trial which is what most of ours are and 80 competitors turn up (it used to happen ! ) then you are going to spend all day in a queue, one experience of that and people do not come back, practice days however mean you can just ride for 4 hours and just have fun.

Way back in this thread (24th March) there was a photo of a small Scorpa bike, anyone got the details of it as it could possibly be the new ty80 ?

What are your thoughts on a starter bike based on say a pit bike style engine, the chap who runs the Otter BSA site has built one which he reckons can be done very cheaply ( check out his site and look at mini otter project.) Smaller wheels would be needed but I imagine this bike with modern styling could take on the GasGas boy / txt70 and the beta at a more compeditive price for lads or Dads wanting to get into the sport. Also check out the latest bikes built by Jon Bliss, very stylish and I think could easily be shrunk to suit the younger rider. Actually some of the latest trick Bantams are probably on par with the small Betas just need some smaller wheels. If you watch videos of the Osets being ridden the suspension hardly moves with these little lads riding so I am sure we do not need to get too sophisticated, just replicate the proportions of the old TY80 and then the Whitehawk large wheel version and get those youngsters started.

O.K. I did not mean to infere that it was the responsibility of the Pre 65 Scottish organisers to control the sport but that particular trial has over the years become the benchmark for building bikes for this class. The acceptance of parts made last week and in fact many 2015 Dots, James and Bantam complete bikes now being used in the pre 65 scene are a direct result of people bending the rules to be more competitive. Scotland is the only trial that I have competed in with the scrutineering stage, it is a lot of work for the organisers and without pointing fingers it still allows bikes to be ridden that are far from pre 65 in appearance let alone build and this sets the standard for the rest of the sport. So my apologies if I have ruffled feathers but we have to accept the sport has now changed and many riders from 10 an 20 years ago riding classic bikes are now 10 / 20 years older and no longer able to get round the sections and the bikes are too expensive to attract younger riders in.

I am down in the South Eastern centre, ( England ) we have multi route trials at all events from club trials, group trials right up to centre championships. It is a lot of work for the CofC of which I am proud to say I am one ( Try doing it before you moan about the trial you have just ridden ) but it does mean there is a route to suit every ability, age and bike being ridden. I understand that some clubs may only lay out one route but if that is the case get out there and help on a Saturday and put in the deviations to make the route you want, we are a tiny sport that needs more involvement, you never know you may even enjoy it ! We are very lucky here, if you belong to a couple of clubs you could ride virtually every weekend of the year, our biggest problem if we are to continue with proper trials is the thorny subject of observers, so if you don't want to help layout how about trying the observer role a couple of times a year, again you may find it almost as good as riding and is always appreciated.

When I insured my Ariel last year my insurer queried my valuation until I listed the parts required to replicate the build at £8000 excluding labour, it is no wonder new blood is not coming into the sport on the heavyweights. I must point out that I did not pay that much for it 8 years ago but the right parts are now scarce, I do not really understand the issue about using later Spanish or Jap parts when you can build a 'legal' bike out of so called replica parts made in 2015 ! How many HT5 or Matchless bikes came with alloy rims, alloy hubs/brakes etc etc it is a ever ending race to make the bikes better for harder sections, this will of course now continue into twin shocks and then mono's. Everyone talks about the 'the trial that cannot be named up North' with rose coloured glasses, yes there is scrutineering but it is a joke, lots of bikes look nothing like the pre 65 originals and no one has the balls to object. Show me a bike that is ridden with foot rests in the original position, yes rests,not ultra grippy ultra light pegs made yesterday and in a position to enable modern sections to be ridden. It may seem minor but as soon as the simple deviation of changing the riding position was allowed the sport changed and we have to accept that. You now have modern grippy tires being used with modern styled sections and wonder why the older riders on 'original' bikes stay away. Sorry to have covered more than one topic but it all adds up to the fact that the sport has moved on and we have to just enjoy riding what we can not necessarily for any awards but the sheer thrill of beating the modern bikes !