borus Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 hmmm, so here is a good video of a sport that develops many cross over riders - I wonder if they would enjoy non-stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) But this is a chicken before the egg ???? Bicycle trials developed out of motorcycle trials ... And I believe our current crop of world class riders started on bicycles .... So yes styles evolve , And the guys above are FANTASTIC . But I still like to ride my bikes . Glenn And the soundtrack does leave abit to be desired ....(must be the old guy brain part !) Edited April 9, 2013 by axulsuv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borus Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 And I believe our current crop of world class riders started on bicycles .... But I still like to ride my bikes . Glenn I get what your saying ___but____for sure but the future of trials is with the youth, it's more than the current crop of world class riders who have crossed over from bicycles. I had a 18 year old show up to ride last week at my riding area, he first was bopping around on his trials bicycle, then later got on his trials motorcycle. So, what riders have the FIM changed the rules for? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fracy Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 We have one of the top bicycle trials riders in the world that lives min from us! Awesome guy, and amazing to watch on a trials motorcycle. He sometimes rides moto as well, and can hop a bike around as good as anyone. Unfortunately, this isnt riding a trials motorcycle. It will only take you so far, at some point you have to be able to properly ride a bike. We will see what no stop does good or bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfc Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 On the up? Did you see the scores? Bet not many riders enjoyed that yesterday.... No stop should be kept to pre 65/ twin shock classes and the likes of the ssdt/loch lomond/reeth/lakes etc where the sections allow for flowing style trials.... British champs riders will go clean all day at these kind of trials no problem the sections need to be more severe to push the boundaries. What the top riders in the country/world can make a 65kg motorbike do is awesome, why peg them back so that older guys and lesser riders can enter a trial and drop hundreds of marks? It won't attract any more to the sport, let's be serious the top riders will still be the top riders and everyone else will find it too hard. It's swings and roundabouts. An issue we will all have to agree to disagree on. Shame the FIM went ahead and made the changes. That FIM no stop video is cringe-worthy. Not impressive atall. It's not 1970 anymore, things move on. Your rant is not in context with my post, it was made regarding the number entered and spectators that rushed from section to section to watch the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borus Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 thank goodness these fantastic riders were allowed to stop long live the "skill of balance" !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 thank goodness these fantastic riders were allowed to stop long live the "skill of balance" !!! Got bored buy 19 secs, balance ? I can balance all day with one foot down !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breagh Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Tut .tut,it's worth watching just to listen to those Yammy/Scorpa hybrids,never heard a better sounding trialler. Certainly better than that old BSA and yellow thing whatever it is that clutters our northern trials scene. See you ay Kidlaw? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducati996 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 thank goodness these fantastic riders were allowed to stop long live the "skill of balance" !!! Very entertaining and a lot of skill involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borus Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 hmmmm, interesting interview, I couldn't agree more, (sorry if this has already been shown on this forum) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 it has been discussed at great length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fracy Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I still consider myself a rider, albeit getting on in years. I have been directly involved in trials in Canada for about 40yrs. My son is an up and coming rider. I have ridden most of my life with some sort of stop allowed and sometimes no stop. I totally understand where Raga and other top riders are coming from when they complain about the new rule changes. But, I do understand that at this rate, the sport is not sustainable. FIM is being forced to try and make changes to find a way to get more people involved in the sport, which will help sell more bikes, which will afford the factories to spend more money on the sport. Its all intertwined. Any importer or manufacture surely must know by the numbers, that there is a problem. I do not know if no stop is the answer, only time will tell. But, we should all put our energy into trying to figure out what the answer is, instead of moaning about the changes, when in reality we just love trials and riding trials bikes. It may take years, but I say at least the FIM is recognizing the problem and trying to work at it. I would be interested in hearing what someone like Dougie has to say about it.....or Jordi, Colomer...Michaud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 The fim is fiddling while rome burns. No stop or stop at wtc will make no difference, but if it does I will be the first to say "I was wrong". Steve why are the numbers dwindling at the top level, who are the riders not competing who you would think should be, those are the ones you need to askwhat needs to be done, not the champions from the past.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) It's the people who buy the bikes you should ask, not the people who are given them ? Edited April 12, 2013 by b40rt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 It's the people who buy the bikes you should ask, not the people who are given them ? As said numerous times before who cares what happens at the WTC BTC whatever? It's what happens at the next Club trial that has a massive effect of whether the sport thrives or suffers a long and protracted death. Those are the riders that matter. Experts don't buy anything they expect to be given stuff all the time that the rest of us directly or indirectly have to subsidise and pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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