johnnyboxer

It is that I think most of it is borne out of frustration, when the rear end breaks traction and you can't find or regain any grip especially in snotty mud You either paddle for a 3 or end up with a 5 I think the problem can be if you don't maintain enough momentum and revs, to 'power' the the bike through Very different to a 2t, where you can go through with a whisper of throttle and then put the power down at will, with great ease Plus if you do break traction, it's easier to clutch a 2t and burn your way through to some grip, one thing that a 4RT doesn't do Your results will be worse initially and people dump the bike back for sale

Exactly I use 1st in tight stuff (9/42), but where a climb is coming up, I sometimes use 2nd for the whole section or snick up into 3rd for a steep climb (and then just hang on ) Between sections on open ground or moors, I quite often enjoy a blast in 5th The gearbox has gears, to be used

What things about the Beta, didn't suit you?

A proper difficult trial, for the pro's

Just get a Mont then.......................

That'll be the sticking point, along the way

Maybe it was too radical for most Trials riders & they voted with their feet, sticking to a more conventional type of bike like GG or BetaSo it didn't sell as well as hoped & ran out of steam

Dadof2 - I agree Are you having trouble posting (3 times)

I ride a 4RT - so not the best person to ask Yes, they are nice But they are not the easiest bike to ride in Trials A 2t will give you better results

Watching........

Exactly - except the National Park don't always see it tha way

A fair point Never been to a WTC, doesn't interest me Scott & SSDT interest me more

That does sound good

I see he's sadly passed away last month, Trials stalwart, rider and supporter, via his shop and engineering skill

Where's the Yorkshire venue tomorrow?

So - you have a water pump & no impeller How very weird?

Not sure that's quite right, but hey-hoVat is payable either there or here, but in reality it's just a 'netting off' exercise - as long as you have some other vat able sales to do that against Ok with a Van, but proving a Trials bike is work related is the difficult one - so you end up paying it, somewhere along the line

That's ok for a novice

???? That can't be right, can it?

Beta perhaps

New riding areas.........

As a private user - the Vat is payable in EEC country at that country's prevailing rate or back in the uk @ 20% irrespective of whether you are registering it or not Vat is Belgium is 21%, so no point paying their Vat and diddling yourself of 1% Otherwise it's tax evasion To reclaim the Vat, you'd have to justify a Trials bike was for business use (deliveries) & of course, the business be Vat registered Your accountant may have difficulty proving that it was a business asset

No import duty in EEC - free trade I was working on the price on the Zona example with tax paid there & the euro @ 1.35 Still a grand cheaper or more on a Repsol If you pay the vat in Belgium at their rate - then it would satisfy the NOVA rules in uk, as tax is paid in the EU I deal with a lot of farm machinery & people are now starting to import this now, direct due to the favourable exchange (killing our exports though)

Cheaper, by a grand, give or take

Mine is the same