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FYI: The ACG output is listed as 160W.
I don't know how much of that is used by the bike but I do know it has what it takes to run a euro light kit with the standard 12V 35/35W headlight tail light and blinkers without issue so...
I should also list the reference link for that information...
http://montesatrials.com.au/store/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/PK-COTA-300RR_ENG_2017.pdf
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If I wasn't nearly ambidextrous I would use it. Good excuse or not I vote use it!
FYI: I say nearly ambidextrous because I favor the right. I am not sure if I favor it because most of the world is right or I am right but just good with my left...
When you can eat rice using chop sticks in ether hand and a bunch of other things like that with my left as well but because of using the right so much in life, school etc., is it really right handed or is it just conditioning...
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I didn't know about the electrics at the time or I might have picked up an OSET for my daughter and would say look into them if its trials riding around the yard and events, however if you want more range and gas powered...
When my Daughter was 11 and around the same size I was able to get her a full sized Beta 80 that worked well over all. It was a bit tall so a consideration to help might be to get a set of the small wheels from the smaller Beta 80 and have spacers created to fit them to the full sized 80.
FYI: I know the smaller 80 wheels can be adapted with spacers I just don't know if you need to change anything with the brake disks or not.
As for gearing the slow speed of the Beta is great!...
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Hard to get in the US but I have a road kit for my 07 4RT and last time I had a volt meter on the bike when I was checking everything so I could make sure it was all setup good was DC to all the lighting. The blinker/flasher/winker relay is a DC relay so I have a hard time thinking it would work at all with an AC input.
I can put the meter back on tonight and double check things if you want and no one else has by then.
Hope that helps.
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A standard 4RT is 12v DC and as the 300RR is built basically on the same platform, unless they changed it witch I doubt, I am going to say its the same. However As I don't get my 300RR tell the end of April I can't confirm for you.
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I like your intent and consideration though I think a better thread topic might be "What safety items and gear do you use or bring with you to a trial and why?"
I think with that we would have a similar level of debate but might not stir the pot as much... because it would be perceived as more about personal opinion and choice and less about potentially adding completely and or bureaucracy to the sport...
And where not shocked I am intrigued at the level of tension that seems to be present in some of the responses.
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Agree with billyt, altitude is the one factor that would make me debate between the 200 or 250.
lower elevation your going to love the 200 in my opinion but higher elevations the 250 would likely be a better option in my opinion.
I was at near sea level and at around 80 kg I started on a 125 (now my wife's bike) and it was fine. Even at my current elevation of around 3500 that same 125 pulls me around fine. However when my family rides at 6000+ and I play on my wife's 125 I can tell the difference in lower power and am glad I have my 250.
Hope that helps.
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I haven't needed to pull it out of my backpack but I have a basic first aid kit with me every time I ride, trials events included...
No ambulance service or emergency review but I have had more than one training class and even a few real world use my skills events, though nothing life threatening so far. Where I don't expect it to be life or death with our sport I at least have training and some experience that might make a difference one day.
So at least some of us think of it in advance...
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In short I think the bases have been covered, however my 2 cents on the 250 v's 300...
First... Ride as many different 250's and 300's as you can if your trying to figure out witch you will like better.
Second... Very few people need the extra power a 300 has, however some people really like the feel of a 300 so if your not a big fella or quite experienced as indicated above you will not need one. But that isn't to say don't get one if after you have played on as many as possible if you just mesh with one...
On a personal note... after having played on several different bikes over the years if it was me I would likely go with a Beta 250 as they just seem to be great bikes for the average rider. However personal taste is the most important thing, and if a Gas Gas brings a bigger grin to your face then you know what's in your future...
Good luck!
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The MX and trials gear I have used are close to the same over all but the MX are often higher amounts of polyester than the trials tops I have used.
I like the trials tops I have used just a bit better than the MX ones for trials but its more because I am not a big polyester fan. The MX ones I have over all work fine however so use them off and on. I do like actual trials pants better for trials riding as the fit and stretch are nicer in my experience for the body movements done in trials. If you want a more clean cut stile that isn't as typical trials but with trials focus for movement I might suggest Up and Over Trials gear http://www.upandovertrials.com/. (not sure where you are located so not sure best options outside the US...)
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if you really do suspect water in the connectors the best way I have found is to pull the bike down to the point where you can put grease in all the connectors to defend against water.
However I agree with the former posts that most 4RT's don't have issues with that so it isn't often the first cause of issues like that. I would as stated above check for spark, reset the ECU, swap the spark plug, or bypass the bank angle sensor as first attempts.
if that all doesn't work there is a very slim chance that you could have a problem with the capacitor or the ECU its self but again very unlikely...
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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I would agree as well, most people don't buy what they need and I myself am an example of that. I want a Montesa 300RR but in reality I will likely never used it to its fullest capacity.
But at lest I would look cool riding it!
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From what I understand the 300RR has a different set of spring caps (or washer? well something changed with the springs and caps any way) to up the pressure a bit because of the class of rider they are expecting to use it. You should be able to check the parts list and see what is different and maybe replace them with the standard 260 equivalent to soften it a bit.
Other options would be to consider a different master like the 315, or to pull 2 of the 6 springs (not recommended by some).
Grips and lever adjustment are the first things to try...
good luck.
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I would also recommend you pickup the Ryan Young DVD's, they are great and will help a lot... the internet video's are good but the full DVD's are so worth it.
Good luck, your coming along well from what I can tell!
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Much better timing and lift, looking good!
Have you been able to ride with anyone else at or above that level? can really help...
Good luck and keep at it!
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I have a 4RT seat tank and seen several 315Rs next to me and like the Beta tank on a 4RT it would take some notable modification to make it work and I wouldn't expect it to be worth the time or money.
I didn't remove my seat and size it up however, so I could be wrong, but the way the 4RT seat mounts I wouldn't expect it to be an easy modification.
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If you think by any chance I was trying to say it was a dumb question or that you shouldn't ask I apologize.
I think you might not have understood my response as it was intended, I was trying to save you some time on your next question...
I was attempting to say that if you already have some information, and it didn't help, it can help us get you the correct information quicker if you include what information you already have or ask a more pointed question so we can be of more help.
I hope you can forgive my lack of being able to indicate that as well as I thought my second post did.
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FYI: I don't know how far your after going but I can get about 25 Miles (40 Kilometers) on a single tank on my 07 4RT's ~2 litres. Add a Hebo tank and strap one of these (http://www.happy-trail.com/happy-trails-container-holder.html) to your bikes left side downtube and a 2 liter fuel bottle, then add the Montesa tank and you have your 4 litres... Just a thought..
It wouldn't siphon strait into the tank from anything but the Hebo tank though...
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In the US here so please forgive me if I am wrong. (oh and please correct me so I don't make the same mistake again... )
I know there is some big differences between the US and the UK but the bikes are for the most part the same from what I have been able to tell so...
The Montesa 315R and 4RT are the only bikes I am aware of that have a well regulated 12V output for lights on the stock wiring loom. If there are others I wouldn't know witch. I have seen a few Gas Gas trials bikes with regulator rectifiers on the AC circuits running 12V lighting but couldn't speak to if it was factory or not (looked factory on one of them...).
The remainder I have seen and worked on are all as dadof2 has described using an AC output for the lights, if any. And would require modification in one way or another to run DOT (US version of MOT) weather that be available factory parts or put together from after market bits.
I can say that my 07 4RT and my wife's 08 Gas Gas both able to run lights, the rest of the bikes I have seen appear to have sufficient output to run lights but I can't say for sure for the rest.
Note: For anyone who cares and/or doesn't know... not all states in the US allow people to road register an off-road bike so take that into consideration when reading my DOT comment above.
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FYI: engine oil and gear box oil is without a doubt different and is not shared on all 4RT's and 300RR's.
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back on topic... as I at least can comment on sound on a 4RT, having a Cota myself, you can try putting a 90 degree silicone elbo on the end of the pipe that points down as a low cost test of how much that helps, I have done and it really dose make a big difference in over all sound at a distance.
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You didn't say that you had the manual or had a question on a certain nut or bolt, just that you had the parts and wanted more information... and yes unless the manual indicates something different you can assume its right hand thread.
Would have been helpful to indicate that...
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Good one thats_a_five... been a few sense I saw you last, hope things are going well.
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http://www.overlandtrail.biz/
Has the 2004 owners manual in PDF here. (http://www.overlandtrail.biz/Montesa Parts Books.htm)
and I believe if you start on 4-5 and 4-6... not sure if you need any other sections.
Best of luck.
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