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WM1 21" flangeless front and WM2 or WM3 18" rear. I would personally use a WM2 rear as clearence is limited on the cub but others swear by WM3. Down to personal preference but i am sure you will get advice from other board members. Post some piccys when you get it done

One of your suggestions Tigh na Cheo

Thanks for the offer Just managed to get a room in Kinlochleven So roll on May Is the action within walking range? I've heard that taking your bike to get around on is a no no. Dont want to break any rules on my first visit do i

Sounds a good idea to me. If it guaranteed all sections were observed by competent observers then i would have no problem contributing. As i said earlier scorpa3 if i am observing then i observe. If i am riding then i ride. If i was the one picked then that is what i would do observe the section all day. however i would be happier to nominate a round where i would observe. There is always a venue that may not be to your taste. Just didnt want my position to be missinterpretated.

Thanks for that i had already looked at that site along with a few others. My main problem not having been before is knowing where is the best place as in location to stay in. You see i thought the trial was based in Fort William but after taking to the guys on Sunday i dont know anymore. Dont want to miss out on any of the social part and dont want to be "billy no mates" stuck miles away from where it's all happenin Thought some of the Scottish mafia and old hands at the Scottish could point me in the right location. Probably get their own back by pointing me in the direction of the loch So do i try to find a <mention of this company is not permitted on Trials Central>, Inn, Hotel etc in Fort William or Kinlochleven? For some reason the above appeared when i tried to post. So do i try to find a Bed & Breakfast, Inn, Hotel etc in Fort William or Kinlochleven? Strange that dont know why it wouldnt let me type <mention of this company is not permitted on Trials Central>

Well i've booked the time off work but only for the Classic 2 day so plan to drive up on Thursday and stay till Sunday night drive home Monday. At least i should see 1 day of the main event also. As this is my first time i assumed that Fort William was the best place to find accomodation however at the Trial on Sunday some old hands told me not to but to try and stay at Kinlochleven. They also said that i probably wouldnt have a cat in hells chance as all the accomodation would be booked up already. So whats the score chaps and chapettes, Highland Lassie included of course got to watch me p's and q's now or i'll probably get a thump, where is the best place to stay and where do i look or have i left it too late and everywhere will be booked up

Just because i give someone my e mail address so that they can advise me that my license has been recieved, is being processed, has been despatched etc doesnt give them carte blanche to send me unsoliceted advertising that i did not indicate i was interested in receiving. Looks like the spam filter will have to be brought into action. Shame as you never know, doubtful i know, the ACU might just send me something useful for once? Surely there must be more cost effective ways of stiffening up your suspension than viagra?

To me it doesnt sound like a compromise at all but then again everybodys entitled to their own opinion. all i was saying is i would vote with my feet and choose not to ride for a club that applied that rule. My choice. I never said anybody else shouldnt ride under that ruling. Just doesnt get my vote. I also listed my personal preference along with how things work in my area and how i also believe riders should observe at some time during the year. Just dont like the idea of turning up looking forward to having a ride and then having that ride, IMHO, ruined. To me that would be annoying to say the least. But obviously it works at that club. Good luck to them. Different people look for different things when entering a trial. If i am competing then i am competing not buggering about. If i am observing i am observing not riding. Dont mind just cant combine the two. Thats me.

FWIW i havent got an additional filter fitted. I use Tesco 20/50 and change it after every 3rd trial along with the gearbox oil and primary case oil. Oils cheap and i have always found that fresh oil is more important than old oil however well filtered. As you dont know the history of your bike i would flush out the frame as best you can to ensure there is no sludge. Change the oil as regularly as you can afford. Supermarket oil is fine as you will be changeing it regularly. I've fitted a magnetic drain plug in the frame tube bottom drain behind the gearbox along with a magnetic drain plug in the gearbox. No problems over twelve months of trialing but what you do is up to you. If you do fit a filter make sure it can not restrict the oil feed to the engine as this would cause probable bearing failure as the oil feed on these engines is not the best. Saying that one of my mates has not got a filter fitted and his engine has not been apart since he built it 15 years ago. He just changes the oil regularly same as me. There will be some who swear by oil filters and others who swear at them. Same as some swear by monogrades and others swear by multigrades. As for a manual? Well Rupert Ratios book "Unit single engine manual for BSA C15, B40, B25 & B50" is a bible i swear by. As for the cycle parts well thats just common sense and depends what forks are fitted etc. They seem to be fairly bullet proof. The only achillies heel as well as with Tiger Cubs is road work as the engine on trials gearing tends to get thrashed for long periods and the oil overheats. Tiger Cub riders were encouraged to ride through every puddle to try to conserve the big end in the good ole days Enjoy your bike they are great fun but the B40 will never grip as well as the C15. If only it would

No you are not being unfair. This WAS unsolicited e mail and in my book that is the definition of SPAM. I think John Collins should at least comment as to why our details are being used for SPAM purposes. Not happy. OK no body died but it's not right is it

My two pennorth. If a club i rode at applied that rule i wouldnt ride there again. If i was the person picked i would observe the section all day. Demand my entry fee refunded and be more than a bit miffed. I have no problem in observing and do so two or three times a year to "put back in" but the arrangement you mention to me would ruin my ride and i would want no part of it. The clubs i ride for regularly have a shortage of observers and this usually results in a rider picking up the board and observing a few riders through. Not ideal due to lack of consistency, open to blatant cheeting, getting stuck with the board and to me just is WRONG. Still better than nothing but only just. Personally i would sooner ride 5 laps of five sections, if thats all the observers you can get, then a lunch break. Start again with another 5 laps of 5 different sections. But thats just my personal opinion. We have covered this subject many many times and never come to a proper conclusion except that there are never enough observers and it looks like this will not change and may even get worse as riders get older and come on their own. Riders ride observers observe. Dont know the answer but you have to do whatever works for you. Me i would turn up for more events that i was not interested in riding at as long as i wasnt out of pocket doing so. Then again i'm a tight git but you cant expect people to give up their time and pay for the privaledge so that you can have your fun. Or can you?.

Dunno about other countries but it is illegal, as in against the rule book, in this country. Always was as far as i know.

My old granny used to say "he knows the price of everything but the value of nothing! " The Hondas will be the most expensive as they are already TLR250's fetch really silly money. So in order of most expensive. 1. Honda TLR250 2. Honda Seeley 3. Honda TLR200 4. Majesty 320/250 5. Bultaco 340 6sp 6. Ossa MAR Mk1 7. Fantic 240 / 300 Pro 8. Bultaco 250 Slimline Model 80 i think might be wrong on the model 9. Ossa MAR Mk2 & 310 10 Ossa Gripper 250/350 Probably forgot a really obvious bike but i am sure i will be corrected. Strange that the above though reflecting the high prices that some twinshocks are now fetching, i dont see this spiral tapering off in the forseeable future, doesnt necessarily correlate to the most competetive twinshock trials bike as reflected in the results sheets. Think a lot of the price inflation is down to disposable income and the desire to own the bike you couldnt afford the first time around. Have also noticed a tendency for a lot of twinshock trials bikes to be restored to "concours" standard and shown instead of ridden. As far as show bikes go twinshock off roaders are a bargain compared to Classic road bikes. So this may explain some of the reason that prices are boyant. Like houses good if you already have one not so good if you havent.

Prefer to use the "D" alloy one but throw the element away and fit a foam one. I have used a Fantic 240 foam cut to size supported by perforated mesh from a car bodyshop. Better flow cost less than

Not probably what you want to hear but. Buy a twinshock. Majesty, Fantic 240 are good choices 1. you wont loose money. 2. you will develop your trials skills as the bike wont do it for you. 3. you wont hurt yourself on modern sections which are very daunting if you are new to trials. 4. you might even find the friendliness and cameraderie addictive and decide twinshocks are the ones for you If you dont then you can always sell the bike and get your money back or more then get a "modern" and watch it depreciate overnight. Only half joking about the last bit. Better go now before the lynch mob arrives

I just sign my salary over to him every month Talking to him the other night he told me of someone who called round and they had tried to do the fork mod themselves. Unfortunately it went all a bit "Pete Tong". The sliders were scrap but at least Alan managed to find him a pair of spare ones but the guy now needs to get some more outers and save up to get the job done properly. It's not as easy as it looks. Yes it is expensive but the difference is well worth it along with the knowledge that it's been done right. Experience costs. Moral is if unsure dont even try it. Oh and dont try to freeze the inner and warm the outer then along with loctite try to put them together

Take it you wont be at Burrycliffe this weekend then Mick

Rumor has it that Sam sells the hubs but the ones in HIS bike strangely are not the ones he sells. Also been occaisions of the shrunk in liner coming loose Dont say you were not warned Leave it with you

Yep know the article you mean. Mod works for the C15 same as B40. However before i started taking an hacksaw and welder to the frame i would fit the longer rear shocks. As i saids before longer shocks lift the back end and increase ground clearence but also steepen the front fork angle. Think of it like a see saw. You may not need to fit a spacer after fitting the rear shocks If you go too steep with the rake the bike tends to "tuck under" on tight turns so i would try it first and see how you like it as is. Personally i prefer not to hack the frame unless i have to. Good luck

Glad you got your parts and are happy. Alloy rims are fine no problem. Me i always go for Morad which are current copies of the old Akront ones that used to be used on Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc. Central Wheel in Birmingham are the main distributor for the UK i think dont know about the US. As for bars they are bery much a personal thing. I like the Renthals and use 5.5" lift ones but i'm only 5'10" tall. Think the highest lift they do is 6" so if they are not to your liking then you will have to make some spacers to put under the bars to lift them more. As a "suck it and see" solution then try some top bar clamps turned upside down under the bars and use longer through bolts. Good Luck

1972 Ossa MAR with a whitlock frame. Just something about that bike. Cant put me finger on it but really wish i'd never sold it. Bultaco 250 "slimline" . Still think one of the prettiest Trials bikes. TY250R mono with Mick Andrews modded engine. Luverly bike to ride. Sooooo reliable and the power delivery was superb. Much better than my current Pinky. Hope the James i'm building become my favourite after all the hours and money it's devoured to date

Great news. Looks like 2007 will be a landmark year for the sport. What with YOU HAVE USED WORDS OR A PHRASE WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THIS WEBSITE. PLEASE DELETE YOUR POST/TOPIC. DO NOT TRY TO CIRCUMVENT THE FILTERS IN PLACE ON THIS WEBSITE finally coming through the letterbox and now Trials Central going from strength to strength. Might even have to make it my homepage now

Got a PVL on mine. Been using a 4 stroke version on the B40 for a year and very impressed. The 2 stroke version for the Villiers has received a glowing report from Mick Andrews when he tried a bike fitted with one so on that recommendation i bought one. Villiers Services sell them i.r.o.

Surprised you havent spoken to Alan about the ignition. As for the carb it depends where you want to ride the bike? generally speaking an Amal concentric Mk1 is acceptabe at most events.

Thanks for the picture woody and the link totalshell. I really am struggling with this and it's bugging me. The stay that Woody shows is the sort of thing i am looking for but it's too wide between the fork legs as the legs on my bike are only 4 1/4" from face to face. The link from totalshell is good but the brackets are fine for BSA type forks but not Norton Commando. going to look at some this weekend but they are in ally and i dont know if they will have a flex issue in use. Tried to bend some from 10mm tube at the weekend but no good. If all else fails i will have a look around the Classic twinshock show at Malvern, it's only about 3 weeks away. Thanks again for the help and advice guys