nigel dabster

.......which is why a time limit was introduced. Section length then comes into play aswell so you nearly end up with a no stop section because of length/difficulty, best of both worlds?

jc 21 and 6 months ferrer 22 and 3 months wiggy 22 and 8 pune 25 and 4 dibs 26 and 2 bou 26 and 8 ferrer was going well before his leg break, a few have had injuries along the way its taken ferrer a long time to get to junior champ Jack c did it 3 years before ferrer, lets see how he goes in italy. jack shepperd is nearly 19.

my post option works now for sure

I wouldnt. There is as much disadvantage as the opposite. Whilst it will make the motor slower to pick up it takes it longer to fall back at the same rate and I always think that for beginers its better to stop quickly. I rode a 250 beta yeastyerday and it wasnt in great fettle and had the weight which seemed to make it feel worse than it was.

you cant see anyone beating Bou anywhere but it will happen eventually.

ferrer is waaaay off the pace, think hes older than jack and wiggy

ok, so you haven't even tried it?

I have the longer pipe on mine works well softer, added to flywheel weight and boysens its nice.

So as the importer you dont know if its a viable system? Are you doing your job?

just my attempt at adding up. you around this weekend?

What I cant understand is why the importers dealers are not shouting this from the roof tops?

I think at wtc and btc,and this was probably my point, whilst big can be spactacular marks can be extracted by other means and if this carries on are we going to hear of a serious injury,paralysis or if they dont fall right a death? I am thinking of a step in France which was really really difficult but not dangerous at all, and also a big leap that was spectacular but again even the juniors found it ok. Section design is everything but not enough thought is going in of consequences.

damaged 4 and stiches in mouth is not 8, agreed. This injury is not nice whatever the count?

it will be wet.

windsor comp shop had pale blue ones

maybe its me but I wasnt there in Spain but were the sections dangerous, if fuji looses his finger tip bou rips a muscle Gubian 8 teeth and Sheppard his face is it time to go no stop?

While Fi is commonplace not anwhere is it used at our low revs, which is why the 4rt has a 1800 tickover?

125 market is always small.....

which is why if there had been a comprhensive discussion about what we were trying to achieve maybe someone would have suggested a halfway house of stop for a one? Bugs me cos if the rules were only slightly different to fim then it might be more accepatable to the top riders whilst giving scope for no stop sections and then we could say yes its working ok sections are more straight forward now we go no stop?

I do also believe having observed an S3 section earlier this year that judgement calls in no stop are so much more critical, a stop is it thats a five. I remember a five at scarborough I got must be 10 years since in a normandale and Woody was there and I said to him after the section was that a five? still p****s me off now. Its a 5 if you stop but its not so hard to score stop allowed. Still think one for a stop is the best way forward then that eliminates a judgement call on the stop and 1 versus 5 doesnt have the force in an argument.

wonder if you'd get a trials bike in one of these? http://citan.mercede...#/istanbul.aspx

From what I see with the British Championship the basic fault is its too hard. Doesn't matter what rules are run. It's just too hard for the majority of riders!! How to get a balance to suit the all the riders is the problem and I don't think you can. So basically they may as well just go back to having 10 riders on the very hard route to suit the top lads and the rest on easier routes. Not a great problem so long as there are clubs prepared to run the events like that. Ok so you want more riders on the top route, why? In the yorkshire centre is there a demand for the expert route to be easier to get more riders riding the hard route? why are the two different? no stop is not right or wrong

"BUT if we are all happy with minor roll backs and brief pauses then thats fine. trouble with present situation is interpretation differs section to section trial to trial. " Funnily the section 15 observer at scarborough was observing stop allowed on the easy route and no stop on the top route.

Now this is where I am going to sound like a scratched recored, if the aim was to make trials easier would that not be a reason to expect more riders? What were the aims?

Has anyone got videos of section 15? The observer there was using stop allowed rules on the easier route and very strict no stop on the hard route, bizarre. Having said that its being picky as all the other observing I saw was very consistent if a little lenient at times. the above video of 7 (actually 6 I think) shows how with no stop there is no difference between the top class scores but there was in how far they got in the section. I saw many riders not get anywhere near the top of the bank,except Alexz dibs and browny, perhaps they could have pushed out and got 3's under stop allowed but under no stop they had 5's straight away. I think under no stop you have to accept a bigger variation in score as when it gets tough the top 2 get through, usually for only a few marks the rest bang 5. This is what I have seen at wtc as well where if a section can be traversed then bou can do it without loss as can the other top few, rest 5. The only way to alleviate is more careful planning for section plotters or easier sections. Not sure how bou would cope if he was struggling in a section, I actually think this is his only fault cos when he is legs down its more than often a 5. Dont happen much if ever!