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I'd agree the "D" class course at Eboracum is pretty easy. Richmond do have an "easy" TY80 course as well. I'd say its tough for the organisers to pitch the level of difficulty but most get it right most of the time. They also do feel the need to put in a challenge here and there which will sort out the results. Also its good to take the Begineers to some of the venues used for Club and national trials so that they can see what they are up againest! Having said that and having Observed for Bradford and Yeadon at these trials some riders are never going to progress and others will never want to progress and the clubs are quite rightly not going to force them. They are there for a good time on a saturday or sunday and don't won't the pressure! Others after being away a while are coming back to gauge how good they are, or to introduce their kids to the sport, (Steve Lampkin comes to mind). They then move on or drop out again as their kids get better. Just try out as many as are in your area. You'll get to know which are best for you. Oh and if you are a friend/dad/relative going along to watch and your friend/son/daughter will let you, do as I do and help the club out by being an Observer.

For those looking for Beginners series in the Yorkshire area a number of clubs run them. Yeadon Guiseleys Beginners Trials this year start on 5th March At Dob Park Just outside Otley. Bradford's Beginners series has had two already this year(they start in November) Just watch out for "Autotowbars" on the regs. Horsforth Run their Beginners at Tong between Leeds and Bradford. Spen Valley also run a beginners series of trials as well as the previously mentioned Hudderfield Falcons. For those with Kids on TY80's and REV50 and just starting "C" class, "Conducted trials" are held by Yeadon Guiseley (at every trial excepting The Chris Carter, Mel Harrison Sidecar, The reunion trial(over 30's only but not a differcult course)and The MacKenzie National). Ripon Also have conducted trials on the same day as their evening trials and have a "easy" and "hard" course for the Kids at an earlier time, (usually 3 to 3.30). Bradford's Beginners are also good to get them used to a standard trials format and most of the sections can be done by a TY80/REV.

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Saw Ot Pi the last time he did Sheffield. He did some sort of show which went totally over everybodies head. Perhaps thats why he hasn't been invited back?

Organisers are Neil Croisswaite and Martin Lampkin as Avondale.

As I said No names As for TSR 22 (A or B ) who is it who proposed the whole centre rides to 1 for a stop at the next Centre meeting? Currently A few clubs do run to those rules in the centre as there is no imposition to run "no-stop".

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My lad started in "Small-wheels" when he was 10. Kept him there (despite the moaning) until he was 12 and then moved him to "C" class and the Beginners and Clubman courses. He has done a year on those and has had a few crashes but he keeps getting up and riding on with a smile on his face! He is now "B" class and prefers the clubman's course and I have to fight to keep him down! He is not quite ready to move on yet but is really eager. I'd say that if they are too good for the easier course then you have to move them on and be prepared to catch them every so often. Just make sure that they don't bite off more than they can chew. Here in the Yorkshire centre we do "lose" riders when they make the switch to the Clubmans course but recently have lost fewer than most years. The trick seems to be making sure they enjoy themselves!

Nope that was Me and My son is a member of Richmond. I'm (And the rest of the Family) are member's of Yeadon-Guiseley but We join other clubs for the competition. IE He is a member at Eboracum where you get slightly different courses in very different locations. Its all good experience for him. The only thing to watch for is what rules you are riding to. The Centre rules are for "Non-Stop" but a few clubs prefer the "One for a stop" rules. (TSR22(A) or TSR22(). Also you'll find some clubs run by dictatorship and others have policies decided by the Members at regular club meetings, (No names no Pack drill). You can come along to Yeadon Guiseleys any time and join up We meet every two weeks and the next is on the 19th January. We also have a closed to club at Addingham on the 16th at which you are welcome to join. It could be a bit tough for a beginner but the venue is also used for practice and Beginners trials so its good to see what goes on on the day.

If anyone needs to book travel from the Guiseley area to the Arena trial on Saturday then phone Dalesman Travel on 01943 870228. ASAP

Richmond Events for Youth ( "A" , "B" "C" "D" and TY80's class) 2005 Feb 23 Parkgate Wensley Mar 6 Harold Graham, Cogden Hall Reeth Mar 28 Iron Banks Richmond(Dads/Mums? allowed too!) Apr 23 Bushy Park, Marske(Dads/Mums allowed as well) May 14 Applegarth, Marske (Another Dads/Mums) June 18 Underbanks Marske(Yep you guessed it) June 9 No venue (Yawn bring your dad/mum (and their bike)) Sept 10 Richardson Trophy, Skeeby(Dads bike can come as well) Nov 12 Iron Banks Richmond (I'm not saying it) Nov 27 Noel Peacock, Gilling West(Only if they are good) Dec 11 Mintex Trophy Healaugh (What, NO Dads!) Dec 26 Albert Shaw, Reeth (See Nov 27)

Great Day out But got Bl@@dy Wet late on!

Have a feeling that James has wanted to "have a go" at the top trials for a while so this would make sense. Maybe Sandifords have not allowed James to enter the top class and switching allows him to do it. Don't think there's any tie up with James. I was talking to him a week or so ago and there was no mention of it. If it did happen it would be only in the UK.

Nope, I hav eheard via the grapevine it has been sorted out. Have a good one Stuart!

Why would we need a FIM steward, the permit was issued by the ACU Lighten up you moaners, some football teams play 5 a side, sometimes 11, sometimes indoor, some outdoor Cant be that bad nearly FULL !!!!! Because you are not running under ACU rules!

Check Yeadon Guiseley as well. I think we had some left. www.yeadon-guiseleytrials.co.uk or phone Graham 01943- 878427

Hopefully Bradford will have an FIM Steward, If not the Insurance could well be invalid for the event.

Having heard the 4RT and the RTL I'd say the noise is completely different. The RTL is very "honda" 4-stroke. You can hear the engine noise as opposed to the exhaust noise. The 4RT seems to make more exhaust noise which is a gruffer, deeper noise. Its not unpleasant but is rather like a softer version of an MX or enduro bike. It is more however than the noise made by a 2 stroke trials bike when the baffles are intact.

Watched James Noble and Wayne Braybrook riding them at the Addingham trial on sunday. The engine just picks up from idle and pushes the bike forward. Superb traction. Only Gripe seemed to be that when you shut the throttle that it. No two stroke running on.

If the damn things so noisy the question has to be, Will any club "discourage" riders from using them at certain venues???

Mansfield have a web site but trying to get to it is tricky as I think they are re-doing it. However you can get there by using this link. Good luck! http://www.users.nascr.net/~lane001/

Kathryn has Cocular Implants so can distingush sounds quite well. I have talked to her and her Mum a number of times and Under most circumstances You wouldn't know she was deaf. Like all really talented people she makes no fuss about it and just gets on and rides! Dorothy is rightly proud of her and Paul.

My Son Had some Forma's. Good boots but he had trouble with the clasps. Given he's only 12 I put it down to the fact his leg isn't as built up as an adults. Just switched to SIDI's the new snazzy silver ones which look very nice.

Check the TMX as there is a S****horpe club running Beginners trials.