jimmyl

minor whinge here but one that spoils all that's good with trials. Rode the jack wood Sunday -cracking Yorkshire trial -sections spot on and really well organised. 2 fuel stops - all arranged which is most appreciated these days. Put my 2 fuel cans in with a drink taped to each can for the organiser to carry to the designated spot. Top job I thought However got to fuel stop one -fuel there - no drink - half empty bottle in the bottom of the pile - thinks its my brand and same colour tape so had the remnants and carried on Surprise surprise same issue at the second stop I'm not sure what disappoints me the most - the fact we cant trust fellow riders, that fellow riders are deliberately tampering with our goods, that fellow riders have no respect for the efforts organisers go to on providing this facility or that fellow riders are that poverty bound that after spending their money on bikes, vans, gear, fuel etc. they cant afford £2 for 4 bottles of lidl pop that they have to steal somebody else's Maybe it was just a mistake but \I don't think so.

bloomin heck john -you forgot chain lube tut tut.

You don't have to send a EFI body away, quick clean every 12 months job done. Not cleaning carb every few weeks. So is much easier. If you want to tweak you can but its not compulsory How many people can jet a carb to suit what they want, How many people swap carbs? With a PTB anybody can tweak the bike to suit how they want it to ride so you are missing a big point. Just down load a map and see if you like it. Worse case you pay to acquire the software and leads or you pay a nominal fee for somebody to swap maps. Best Best case your buddy does it for nowt PS The loss of a true gent who had trials at his heart is not a subject to joke over what ever the inaccurate technical point you are trying to get across. Bit like your entry fee post seems the general consensus seems to be get out and smell the coffee cos your talking from a point of weakness//ignorance (cant decide best description)

With total respect to a much missed Munch I have in the past happily changed maps for local riders/friends at no cost as it takes about 20 mins to swap maps. If you want something special then that's a different matter. I know other dealers offer to remap PTBs if you cant find a local friendly Mont fan who could help you out for the cost of a pint.

not a subject for jest

insensitive as well as unhelpful.

Not aware of any benefits - all 3 of mine have had this mod - been on 4rt nearly 10yrs.

Finish the breather under the head stock. Put white bottle in the bin Block the hole going into the air box Don't think I would take the pipe where you have indicated small filter is good idea. You can then take the relay of the bracket under the air box and fit it behind the headstock where the white tank came from

Tis only bling but I got one Had mine of ebay recently - works spot on and multi colours. Didn't need to notch top of cap as breaths through the middle not the side. I have lost a couple in the past, seem to get caught by my jeans when dragging bike out of a possible big five. Only draw back with the short pipe is when marking out sections as the flag bag always knocks it off - will see how my latest button cap fairs with this years St Davids. Might be back to a bit of tube come mid may.

That's the one - looked nice

Ps and what's your Pin number

The Mitani is longer and thicker. My mate just had a nice one off Munch at M Sport. Italian make I think but looked a quality piece of kit

Having had a twin map PTB on a couple of bikes and played with lots of maps -to be honest until you get in sections that are quiet extreme it is hard to tell the difference between maps. Cant see why the RR should be any difference. Suggest you use what feels to be the softness map until you find you are struggling for power then try the more extreme map.

My Miitani has gone from 09 to 15 no problem and yes I am hard on bash plates. I'm pretty sure there is no difference 05 to 16 on hole centres for bash plate, just a fitting technique required to compress rubbers cushions. I have seen some H&D ones bend very easy but cant comment personally. I had a bespoke one made for my 05 which as a little wider to protect water pump, extended under footrest and also linkage. I had it made from thicker material and made sure alloy spec was correct - tough but not too malleable

cheers. any photos of the mod thanks

Cheers Matt Got a new 2015 last year but put my old PTB on it. Had a couple of instance of when going for a big handful it started missing - will try a stop to see of its that.

Hi petermac/mattv6 is your PTB still sorted with these mods or has the problem returned etc.

51501-nn4-003 if it helps

Presume same as 4rt so maybe try Honda direct. See what part number is on 4rt web site and google.

Cant speak for any other centre or club but all this information is available during our AGM's and normally published. Have you asked for this during your club meeting or centre board meeting. I know as a group of riders and also clubs we vote on the entry fee for the coming year based on these facts - is that the same in your club/centre. I don't think you can compare 1 country against another on just one variable - need to take total annual cost into account - ie licence fee etc. We pay a £10 registration fee per year for ACU - the rest is a pay per play levy. Also what fringe benefits are you comparing with - ie Insurance cover etc Cover for officials, expenses for observers etc All these add up. I'm sure in your business you would compare quotes based upon the same set of specifications other wise its meaningless.

I know somebody who had theirs welded but not successful. Mine lasted me a few years and was still good - maybe change the screw once a year. I found marking out / C of C duties made mine worse as lots of stop starting, starting from cool etc. In a normal club trial you maybe only start it 20 times. Traditional nationals also not so good as 40 sections to walk and start up from. If you can drill the a pilot hole before the piece break off and even counter bore it so the head of the screw is supported by the original metal is best

so what is your suggestion

are they tech forks or Showa? Showa strip down is in the manual I think which is available PDF if you search forums. I had a good tip from Munch at M sport for tech fork info as the tech web site has full strip down info etc

I had this on my 09 and bought one on ebay with same problem . File of the offending stop, drill and tap and put an M5 (I think) cap head screw in as a stop. If the cap looks like it is wearing replace with a new one.