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Video does indeed make everything look flat and easy and from what I've seen hard enduro riders just starting to ride trials bikes are not afraid to try hard stuff, fact is they show nearly zero interest in doing easy stuff. Put a Jake Stapleton on either a trials bike or an enduro bike and he will point it up or down anything imaginable and make riding it for several hours look easy 😎 you don't tone your terrain down for riders like that you set out a pro line and watch the magic happen. Some advanced enduro riders are riding trials bikes competitively at the intermediate level within the first year on a trials bike. Ridership numbers representing all class of riders here is Way up in the last 3 years, including frequent practice day sessions, event support rides and in actual competitions. Given a venue the sport has seen a huge growth in talent compared to previous decades, that's the reality here.
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You don't know me from Adam.
Y'all should lay off the Booze before posting!
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That part was very salty and this part "Sorry, that is an absolutely terrible attitude to have. You maybe dont realise it, but you are undenibaly driving people away from trials with an attitude like that." <- wtf
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And from your salty post, curious where the other 1% of your trials events are held, do you have a really big boat?
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Canadian here. And our CMA rule book states the following:
Q-141 Conduct. (a) No riding on the course within ten (10) days prior to the event.
Q-140 Scoring (section d Other Penalties) #3 - Practising on the course within 10 days prior to the event, and/or on the day of the event = Disqualification.
Not saying it's a good rule but it is the rule if we want to host a CMA sanctioned event. @faussy yes, indeed my considerable experience with building trials events are unique to me and holy talk about attitude 🙄 I sure hope you do more then just show up to ride at events.
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Not so crazy, when I was 6 years old I taught a chimpanzee to play hide and seek and to ride my tricycle.
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Test between brown and white and then between brown and blue, I think blue is the light and white is the ignition if the meter agrees then white goes to points and condenser and blue to the light and horn. Next step would be to assemble and spin the motor to do a voltage test and see what comes out.
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If it's just a multi-tap transformer then the ignition will be the first and the longest winding will be the lighting coil output I should think. That way if the light coil burn out you would potentially not be stranded. Does that make sense with your meter testing? the lighting coil I would predict to have a higher resistance value
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How many wires are physically connected to the coil, we can't tell if the one white wire goes to the coil or just under it, if you have 3 wires exiting the coil that is potentially a combined lighting and ignition coil, only two wires would be just an ignition coil. Lighting coil will have measurable resistance separate from the ignition coil and one wire common to both those.
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The most basic wiring diagram that is similar to what you have right in front of you is a chainsaw. Wire it just like a chainsaw.
search 'chainsaw points wiring diagram' the first images that show will work.
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That was my first thought even if it is not such a good idea. Securing or spring loading something to a brake line is just asking for trouble.
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We see one coil so this must be for ignition, that (single phase) coil should have a measurable resistance of one or two ohms. The photo doesn't really show where the solid white and the green/yellow wires go, so the white wire that is spliced into the blue wire plus the brown wire appear to be the AC output from the coil. Do an ohm meter test between the blue and brown wires, if you see one or two ohms resistance across those two wires that is the coil winding you are measuring.
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There is one more group of riders that should not go over-looked, there are some riders that absolutely insist on riding above their ability, they literally insist they are advanced riders and then complain that the advanced line is too hard. We try to convince them they should ride the line that they never championed in (Intermediate) but it falls on deaf ears and they just bad mouth &/or stop attending our events. As the event organizer I have no time for that nonsense, ride the line that is appropriate and set out for your skill level, you are not that good, if you bump yourself up 2 lines and fail that is on you.
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You only missed one small point, I host events in support of out TdN (Trial des Nations) team effort. Any small amount of proceeds collected here go to support our TdN team and I build events to replicate TdN competitions as closely as possible, for example 'no stop' rule has prompted me to build sections that can be ridden no stop.
Five lines of difficulty still exist here except the Novice line is in the entrance and out the exit with no requirement to observe gates within the section, Junior, Intermediate, Advanced (former Expert) and then for National events I add a Pro line. Pro line is the Champion class and to determine how difficult the Pro line is I have a GP (Guinea Pig) rider, if JoshJosh can ride it I include it in the Pro line event. Sections are completely enclosed with tape, occasionally we add a Novice exit gate within that boundary tape to exit the Novice riders and avoid the hardest part.
Practicing the sections is indeed against the rules, 2 weeks prior to the event the sections remain untouched as per the rules. You can't have the sections tracked up and trashed minutes before the real event starts. If you just want to lower all the scores then don't include as many loops (Novice only do 3 loops) or go with best 3 out of 4 loops if you wish but that certainly doesn't make the event results any easier to tabulate.
At one event some two decades ago I set out 2 complete Trial event loops of 12 sections each, at that time it was 3 lines of difficulty for modern bikes and skilled riders plus 3 lines of Vintage and Novice friendly sections. Absolutely nobody rode any of the Vintage sections, it was a total waste of my time to set out the 12 additional sections, but after the event concluded I did field complaints about the modern sections being too difficult for some. When I asked why they elected to ride the more difficult sections and not the event sections that were specifically tailored for their riding they responded 'we wanted to ride the same sections as everybody else' which was basically stupid because that was why the sections were above their skill or twin-shock bike reality. I will never do that again.
Note on cheating; we know who the cheaters are and we know how and when they cheat, generally we just accept that as par for the course. I recall one event where I placed 3rd. and when I confronted the first and second place winners with 'how did you guys do so well in the hardest section' and then determined they were partner checking and both missed the hardest gates in the hardest section, their response was not to own up to the 5's in that section it was 'it's a shame we didn't all ride the same event' 🤔
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Had that same problem, nobody to ride with but I worked past that and here's how; First off, nobody is making a living out of building Trials events and contrary to some notions, the events are not built by or financially supported by the sanctioning organizations such as CMA which is FIM in Canada, they are little more then insurance brokers that just happen to keep some records of past event results and collect competition license fees, their rule books are out of date and they have neither the motivation or the expertise to do much else. Realistically as the organizer it costs me time and money out of pocket every occasion I host an event, so if you are not doing this for the totally selfish reason of having others to ride with, then give it up now. 'All on public or other people's private land', is extremely unlikely to work, been there done that, if you don't 100% control a venue with challenging natural terrain it will not end up being a long-term sustainable Trials group. You get no sympathy from me about your age because I am older than you and intend to continue riding to at least 80 assuming I'm still vertical by then. You can't make Observed Trials Competition any more attractive to new riders by structuring the events specifically towards novice riders, been there, done that, what has worked successfully for us here is hosting several Hard Enduro events in recent years, which has attracted a dozen or more new riders primarily wanting to cross-train on Trials bikes to get better at riding their Enduro bikes. What usually sells Enduro riders on riding Trials bikes is when they try to follow somebody like myself (a senior citizen) for a while and can't. What motivates those Enduro riders to support our Trials events for things like checkers is by making their ability to ride Enduro bikes here commensurate with supporting our Trials competition events. Historically the one person that helps me the most in hosting competition events is my wife and she doesn't even ride any more so I'm not sure why she does it, I think maybe she loves me.
Once you start building and hosting events you will experience lots of people thanking you, plenty of criticism, loads of lame suggestions on how to do it better and even the need to deal with event security, because believe it or not some individuals may attend your events with nefarious or harmful intent.
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Got it, you don't want to ride in events because you don't like the format 😐 and you are not being critical of the people that build them 😎 guessing few here have previously hosted or are planning to host any future events, indeed, we are all different. I'm still cleaning up after the last one and planning the next one, which requires a great deal of riding and planning, and I'm good with that.
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I think y'all should go out and start building and hosting Trials events, then you don't even need to ride the stuff competitively and you can show us how it's done 👍
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Fanny pack 👍 first aid kit, smart phone, lighter, sewing kit, small tire pump, low pressure gauge, drinks, candies, zip ties and assorted small wrenches. Wear it off to one side if you are fearful of landing on the phone. Anything attached to your body does not make the bike heavier. Keys, cash and anything I don't need out in the woods gets locked in the truck or left at home. Anything that needs to be water-proofed goes into a plastic bag. Swiss Army knife is always on my belt and that covers a blade, scissors, file, screw drivers, pen, tweezers, tooth-pick, corkscrew and a wood saw blade, it also has an awl that is great for drilling holes through plastic so you can field repair Beta fenders.
... if you wanted to carry all that stuff in yer pockets you'd need to be wearing cargo pants, if you wanted to strap it to the bike it would make your bike weigh an additional 1 or 2 pounds 😆 lot of people pay big bucks on titanium bits just to reduce their motorcycles weight by 1 or 2 pounds.
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I think that after I acid tested the finish to make sure it is Chrome and not Zinc I would measure the fork tube diameter very accurately somewhere that the tube has experienced zero wear or corrosion, then I would make the entire tube that same size.
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Because in a rain event the run-up gets trashed to the point where nobody can do the test. Been there, built that trial too. Any forest based trial that was visited by glaciers might be the same as here, riders from B.C. have said they feel right at home here. I've been to an awful lot of events that were flat to say the least, what makes for a good trial event is somewhere you can ride all of the terrain and it is endless sections one right close to the next part. Plus it needs to be owned by somebody willing to have people ride motorcycles all over it, Not too many places like here, if there was I wouldn't be doing it I'd be going there to ride.
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"terrain like this all over the world". That's not what the people who travel to ride here say, and yes the 2 slopes you pointed out are tests that benefit from a run-up particularly in a rain event like that one was.
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So ya'll like to have a short tight turn and only one line up the hardest most technical part of the section, lol you should ride some Quebec trials. Here's some video of my sections, seeing is probably the best way to explain it.
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Under the saddle/fender, they have a TwinAir oiled foam air filter with a small piece of plastic bolted immediately over the filter element so water doesn't drop down directly on the filter, the air box has a drain in the bottom with a one way flap valve to let water out, but sometimes that gets plugged with mud so you need to clean the air box occasionally. TRS seem to do well in water crossings, way better than some brands. On some other makes the rear wheel funnels water into the air intake and the filter fills with water quickly. TRS air box has a considerable volume to fill before the filter becomes submerged.
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Sounds like your sections are not set up anywhere Near the way I set out a trial. When I set out gates there is generally an obvious continuous flow from the start to the exit. I generally put the hardest most spectacular part right at the section entrance so that riders have a good choice of lines to approach the biggest challenge. I make the lines wide enough that riders have options and that helps if the weather degrades before or during the event. Never seen anyone refused the opportunity to finish riding through a section after taking a 5 unless they were simply holding up a line of other riders and didn't stand a chance of following through.
I'm fortunate to have 2 classes indicated on my competition license, I can compete as Intermediate if I'm feeling very olympic, or I can ride down to the Junior line and compete in Grand Veteran class. We don't have time limits in the sections for the simple reason we don't have the manpower to support timers, we are lucky just to get checkers. Riding any line you want to ride non-competitively is considered Clubman class and results are basically not tabulated. That would include riders riding down a line due to recent injury.
Gate trials as you described where you earn points for negotiating specific gates, we haven't even tried that yet. It would likely be too much for our checkers to handle.
Time limits within a section is not an issue if the sections are designed well and with the intent to be ridden non-stop, if nobody can finish a section within 90 seconds or so then clearly the section is too long. Three difficult parts in a section is usually sufficient, if you put six hard parts in a section then time in the section is going to become a problem. If one or more riders go clean all day I consider that to be a fail in setting out the sections or the riders are riding down a line, I like to get some points from everyone and points total between the classes should be relatively balanced, there should not be a class where everybody has a high score or again that was a fail in section setup.
I build a Lot of trials events and they are generally well received. lol and it sounds like we don't charge enough for entry fee, most of our events only cost about 25$ to enter.
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Love the Michelin X Lite single ply tires before they became crazy expensive, when they were first introduced here they were cheaper then the 2 ply version, now they are near 300$ each with tax. Lately I've been buying Dunlop 2 ply because they are nearly half the price of the X-lite and last a little longer, I run the Dunlop rear at very low pressure ~4psi and they perform good for my light weight. Haven't found any tire yet that can withstand double digit minus temperatures without cracking or pealing off the knobs in winter but I imagine not everybody has that problem 😆 Back in the day Pirelli radial was the best tire for the TY bikes, but it made a difference what country of origin was stamped on the tire, made in Spain tires were great and the identical model tire stamped made in USA was terrible by comparison, and yes I too had to trim the rubber on the bead or they wouldn't seat on the tube type rim correctly. When first introduced the Pirelli radial was available in either tube or tubeless type, then the tube type version became unavailable.
Agree it is very cool to be able to compare notes with riders from the other side of the planet 👍
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