old trials fanatic

Get my bits from Trials bits also. One piece of advice. When fitting nipples 1. make sure you make a good cats ar5e. 2. Use a solder pot NOT a soldering iron.

Thanks for the input guys. I have also been in favour of lunch breaks and not just for the social reasons which i agree does seem to be sadly lacking nowadays. I too remember in the 70's there was always a lunch break. Time for a chat, a fettle of the bike and a cuppa. Also allowed the observers to swap sections if they wanted to and the organisers to change the odd section that may have been a problem. We used to also sometimes ride the sections in reverse i remember. It was second nature to ask "same as last lap?" I think the problem in this instance is the fact that the two Clubs in question are specifically "Classic Clubs" in as much as they are for riders of pre 65 and twinshock bikes only with no modern bikes allowed. That in itself was one of the attractions for me but what it does result in is a much older group of riders and club members. When i used to go trialling there was me my dad and mum in the van. Most people arrived en masse. As we get older things change. Now my dad is dead and my mum doesnt go out much due to infirmity. This results in a lot of riders coming on their own. When there are younger riders in a club there are a ready supply of Dads some of which will gravitate to organisational duties. That is inherently the problem. All the Club members are getting older. Very little new blood is coming in at pre65 level especially. Also the riders dont want to "get involved" they just want to enjoy their ride. Strangely the organisers would love to also "enjoy their ride" but they cant because they get pestered by "other things" usually other riders moaning about the severity or even the lack of the sections. Eventually they say enough is enough now i'm going to enjoy my ride again and the club and the moaners can go to hell. Who can say in their position YOU wouldnt do likewise. I know i think i would say sod it too. Perhaps as has been suggested the area can not support two Classic only trials clubs? Just find it a shame and a waste if it comes to that. I agree clubs are the bedrock of the sport. Practice days just dont do it for me. I need competition to motivate me and to me that needs to be a club with a championship etc even if i dont stand a cat in hells chance of ever winning it. If nothing else just bear these things in mind when you next ride. Offer to help even if not asked. It will be appreciated. Finally before you moan at somebody just stand in their shoes first and wonder how you would feel ? Value your Club while you still have one.

The big story of this Peak Classic Three Day Trial was the weather. At times it was like taking part in the Japanese game show

It appears that there is a distinct possibility of two clubs locally folding due to a lack of people coming forward to shoulder the load and or help out with the organisation etc. I have offered to do what little i can but it takes more than just one person and that is the problem. We all lead busy lives and we all have our own pressures on our time and resourses. However it will be a sad day indeed if either or both of these clubs fold due to lack of interest. It's not that there are a lack of entries more that the organisational duties are left to the same old few and in one case just two people. There comes a point when these people say "enough is enough it's time somebody else took over". The problem is nobody looks like they want to take over. This is the case all over the country i've seen it happen in football, angling and car clubs i have been a member of. Some of the times it's been me who's said "enough is enough". I dont think things will change as there are always more people who want to turn up and enjoy themselves while somebody somewhere does all the spade work. Thats just human nature. So whats to be done? Do you just let things take their course and hope that something phoenix like will arise from the ashes? I dont know the answer. I sometimes feel that you are just prolonging the inevetable. Is there another way? A suggestion i did hear was for a more informal gathering of like minded riders more along the lines of a practice session where say ten guys each lay out a section. Then everybody that turns up rides and observes each other then it's all down to the pub and count the scores. On the plus side then no one person has to do all the paperwork, banking, sending out of results, permits etc etc as there isnt any. On the negative side well it personally just doesnt feel like a "proper" competition. I am sure there are other considerations which havent been thought of which is one reason i have posted this as i would appreciate hearing of others experiences. One thing that is for sure is that as time goes on i can forsee this happening elsewhere and i wonder if the time is rapidly approaching when we have to take a long hard look at the way our sport is organised. A lot of clubs struggle for observers already due to demographic and other influences. It only takes one or two people to resign and not be replaced for a club to no longer exist. Is there another way? I'm listening

Well it's all been said. Told you a pvl is the way to go. If you now buy from someone other than Alan Whitton then dont say we didnt tell you Been there done it got the tee shirt. Low price isnt always the best deal.

Wobblie Wills website mate. I posted you the link

Totally agree woodie which is why i prefer the 27mm carb on the B40 combined with the extended manifold. Gives me the best of both worlds. You may well be right about the distributor shaft. It's a long time since i worked on a distributor model forgot about that. Rupert Ratios bible is again money well spent. So there you go B O C the forum agrees for once

Doesn't Legs have Vestys last Bultaco in his possession? My brain can't remember clearly as I swear I saw it and am 90% sure Legs was stood next to it. Think you'll find Legs does have one of Vestys Bultacos but then again Vesty must have had many in his time. After all the one in question is in Finland. However the advert doesnt actually say much about the history of the bike. Might have been a spare for practice or one he had for parts etc. Perhaps the person to ask is Yrjo vesterinen himself. He's only round the back of Sandifords after all

1. Junk the ignition fit a pvl and blank off the distributor hole or fit a breather to it. 2. Amal concentric 622 is good as in another post although i prefer the 624 . I run a 627 on the B40 but i like big carbs. 3. Junk the tyres use a Michelin front and IRC rear. Pirellis are err.... crap. 4. Terry Weedy for the kickstart. Same as Millers but cheaper. 5. Lengthening the inlet does help. I made one on the lathe but if you dont have acess ring Surry Cycles who do a thick tufnol spacer. This is essential to stop the carb and fuel vaporising. 6. you didnt mention this but the forks will need to be changed at some point as will the yokes along with the hubs but 1 - 5 should get you started. good luck and enjoy.

Test ? what test

Are you sure they were not paw prints? Sort of puma size?

Tasty very tasty Even nicer than the ones in the museum.

Donald nothing much to add other than what i said on the phone the other night. Just tell the old bugger that i hope to see him on pipeline again next year. Real fun spending time with both of you this year. He's a real character as you both are. Best wishes and will contact you when i get back from Robregordo. Just finished packing

Oh. Far as i know they are interchangeable.

As far as i know most of the tailpipes are interchangable. The most commonly available ones are the WES ones. There is a soft and a sharp one called Go. down to personal preference that one but the good thing is they are repackable and available from BVM i think. "are they all the same" IMHO very much a NO on that one. The best i tried was one that Mick Andrews fitted to my old TY when he modified the barrel, airbox and exhaust for me. that one was sooooo sweet beautiful linear power and georgeous exhaust note. Like rocking horse poo nowadays so again IMHO if you find one get it you wont regret it.

Dont forget when you put it back on have the closed end of the clip facing in the direction of rotation of the chain. Like a fish swiming up stream

"i did actually try a stream crossing then as the front wheel went in it sunk down to the disk, " Thats alright. It's when they keep sinking you start worrying Have fun and go for a finish then you have gained experience and have a benchmark for next time

Hiding us from the Missus now, eh?! If more members had said hello and introduced themselves then i might have known who was who. then again me ugly mug probably frightened em orf Kept looking for you Highland Lassie but couldnt match your avitar to anybodys So who was the top forum member riding in the pre65 Scottish then?

There are only a couple of options other than a self modified std BSA frame as far as i know. Either the Sammy Miller one or Faber Frames. Both are oil in frame but are lighter than the std one have more ground clearence and more modern geometry. However some centers will only allow them as "specials" and neither as far as i know are elegable for the Scottish. Now that may or may not bother you but just a thought. The forks in Thorpys bike i think are Marzocchi internals as are most competitive pre65 bikes nowadays. Some people use Betors from a Bultaco Ossa etc but they are getting hard to find and just a personal opinion here i would feel they are better kept to keep Bultacos Ossas running but thats just my opinion. The Cub seems to bit better catered for than the BSA and i suppose ultimately, depending on how competitive you are, is once modified a more competitive Trials bike. BSA C15 and B40 are cheap, relatively, fun though and if you have the bits why not. Enjoy

With you on that one. I went to the Pre65 and loved every minute. Even the ones when the bike got stuck in a bog In fact loved it so much i've booked for next year already. Now if only i can get a ride

Now heres an interesting one. Firstly shame on you if you didnt say hi on Friday and Saturday. Only Woodie, apart from slapshot3 who wasnt riding anyway and almost got me lost which is another story, had the good nature to say hi. He deserved a clean anyway So Vinnie whats your excuse? i saw you at the presentation so i now know who you are Any ideas who from this forum finished highest in the results?????? As far as i can see it's a certain Mr Rapley. Unless you know otherwise. So if you do let us know. Otherwise well done Hillary and for someone who said he was mostly interested in modern trials a damn good result. Anybody ever noticed how people usually look shorter in real life than you imagined them ? Oh nearly forgot WELL DONE WOODIE

You cant rule out Big John on the Matchy then

...And if they don't say hello to the observer at dubh lochan on Friday there will be trouble.....or a 5... And i'm partial to the odd Jaffa cake or three I'm the good looking one on Dubh Lochan