In which case i bow to your superior knowledge. The organisers of the Scottish knew their onions better then i and i will pass this on to the Sprite owner who contacted me
A much modified TY originaly result of a colaburation between John Shirt and Mick Andrews. Possibly the second best twinshock trials bike according to some. The holy grail to others.
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But Pat were they commercially available before 31/12/1964 ??? because if not they are surely NOT elegable. If an exception is made for a "development" bike not commercially available then lets all wheel out "development" Bultacos
I am sure you or Big John will know the answer to this. When was the first Sprite ridden in the Scottish 6 days trial and as a matter of interest when was the first Bultaco ridden in the Scottish also
Thats what i thought too Woody which is one of the reasons why we now run British Bike not Pre65 but i notice from the entry list for the Scottish Pre65 two day this year that they have allowed four Sprites to enter ??? now i am confused because that seems TOTALLY against the rules to let a bike manufactured after 31.12.1964 to enter a Pre65 event?
I also agree with TrialsRfun comments and feel more clubs should adopt as we have British Bike or British Twinshock and drop the ridiculous Pre65 tag as Sprites, Cheetah etc are surely within the spirit.
I've told the guy to come and ride at our events but am now wondering that my advice to him that his bike would NOT be eligable for the Scottish Pre65 is incorrect as they are letting them in. Better ring him up now and appologise.
LOL cutting but true. I've only got 4 basically after talking to Mick new years day he was going to get in touch again with the guy who is building the frames. Mick is off to New Zealand soon but should have some positive news when he gets back.
Will let you know.
Question. I've had a question from a guy who has a Sprite trials bike in basically standard condition with an iron barreled Villiers 32A motor. He wanted to know if the Sprite was eligable for Pre65 events. Now i thought that Sprites were made from 65 onwards so they are most definately NOT eligable for Pre65 events. Not a problem to ride in our events as we dont have a Pre65 class any longer as i felt it was too much of a minefield so the class has been changed to British Bike but he was concerned taht his bike is or is not eligable for Pre65. Roy Bacons book seems to infer that as i said they are not eligable but canb anybody here give me a categorical answer?
Quote copied from the official website.
"The ballot for this event is not simply 180 names pulled from a hat. It is balloted in many different categories to ensure a wide variety of bikes, cc class, nationality, newcomers, over 60
Taking into account that "a number of places are allocated at the organisers discretion" does anybody know how many places are actually subject to this "ballot". Not having a dig just wondering cos i do think most of the "interested" parties would like to know how many places they are actually competing for after the club has allocated that ever elusive "number" of places for whoever. Depending on the number of "available" places perhaps that 19 scots might not be so bad after all.
Is it so wrong to want to know how many places were actually up for grabs?
I will probably get lambasted again for daring to ever pass anything but glowing praise for the organisers, doffs cap bows profusely whilst tugging forelock, but every year the same comments about the "ballot" LOL and machines crop up. I think the only conclusion people should come to is that the organisers dont give a toss what we the great unwashed think or do as long as they stay oversubscribed they couldnt give a monkeys. As has been made patently clear to me on this forum on many occaisions "ITS THEIR EVENT NOT OURS AND THEY WILL ORGANISE IT AS THEY SEE FIT".
Must admit after speaking to a lot of local riders who also compete on a weekly or at worst monthly basis actually riding British bikes in Classic Trials they are getting to the point where they dont bother about the Scottish Pre65 either.
Oh we have our rants and moans on here but nothing will change so why do we bother??? no idea really.
Just from a personal viewpoint that everything was conducted more openly. One question i havent seen voiced for a while is why dont you have to qualify for the event??? Bit like the old British Experts. Then again as previously stated it's their ball and they aint bothered.
I know people who use either. Personally i would stick with a WM2 as to me it gives a better footprint to the rear tyre but some do prefer the WM3 but i felt it didnt give so much grip especially on cambers.
Think the WM2 is more easily available second hand too plus security bolts are cheaper.
Blimey you do have some bad luck. Betor Pro's on my OSSA have done a year with no probs. I like them better than the NJB for looks but as i've not ridden the NJB's bit unfair to comment.
